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Bumble wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 5:12 pm Or he’ll become the new Allardyce, on speed dial by desperate chairman when their club looks like dropping out the league.

Silas wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 12:12 pm We are getting voted as overachievers on a few things for this season from opposition fans. Are we shit?

superpull wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 11:16 am Looking at the last 5 years, i think there's an argument to be had that he has been the most important player in our history.

I started writing that and intended it to be a joke. But the more i think of it, the more it might be true

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Sure a decent first [emoji6] games and people will flip on him again.

Matt1878 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2026 10:30 am Taking on perpetual relegation fodder and having one transfer window to deliver Europe was unrealistic. Judging by people's predictions at the start of the season, midtable with a shout of europe would do them. Thats what they got and the team just ran out of steam.

The obvious criticism is the lack of rotation and I share that view, its something he needs to address, to prevent complacency. For a club of Everton's financial standing though you need to allow a manager several windows to build a team that he can be judged on, while considering injuries and their impact (Jack, Jarrod), plus we had no full backs and got fucked over by refs and VAR more than anyone else.

I'm just going to buy into a 2 year, 2 transfer cycle and assess at the end of it, if we're where we should be. I'll go into the new season not half expecting to be booing after the first 45 minutes and acting all entitled about it, stinking the place out.

I remember when he finished 17th and everyone wanted him gone. We sold Wayne too and he then finished 4th and went on the best 6 year run in the club's time in the PL, with no money to spend, creating a team people still talk about. You dont get back to that with a club our size by continually fucking a manager off. Look how long Dyche got serving up survival... Sack Moyes now and we could be back in the shit in no time. Its the stadium I think, got everyone expecting us to be world class because they can finally see the pitch. You have to work for everything, the stadium doesnt entitle us to suddenly think we're too good for Moyes.

Matt1878 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2026 10:30 am Taking on perpetual relegation fodder and having one transfer window to deliver Europe was unrealistic. Judging by people's predictions at the start of the season, midtable with a shout of europe would do them. Thats what they got and the team just ran out of steam.

The obvious criticism is the lack of rotation and I share that view, its something he needs to address, to prevent complacency. For a club of Everton's financial standing though you need to allow a manager several windows to build a team that he can be judged on, while considering injuries and their impact (Jack, Jarrod), plus we had no full backs and got fucked over by refs and VAR more than anyone else.

I'm just going to buy into a 2 year, 2 transfer cycle and assess at the end of it, if we're where we should be. I'll go into the new season not half expecting to be booing after the first 45 minutes and acting all entitled about it, stinking the place out.

I remember when he finished 17th and everyone wanted him gone. We sold Wayne too and he then finished 4th and went on the best 6 year run in the club's time in the PL, with no money to spend, creating a team people still talk about. You dont get back to that with a club our size by continually fucking a manager off. Look how long Dyche got serving up survival... Sack Moyes now and we could be back in the shit in no time. Its the stadium I think, got everyone expecting us to be world class because they can finally see the pitch. You have to work for everything, the stadium doesnt entitle us to suddenly think we're too good for Moyes.

Matt1878 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2026 11:21 am Its the 16, 17, 15 in that run that is key, the 13th was him pulling us away from a similar finish. Prior to that has no bearing on what he was expected to change.

My point was, his starting position in terms of the squad quality was one consistently flirting with relegation. He steadied the ship and had one transfer window to improve the squad. During that window it was clear he was frustrated at the lack of signings until late in to that window.

We all want whats best for Everton dont we and that's my view as to whats best for us right now. If I am in just the 25% of fans that want to keep him though , we may as well fuck him off. I can't as be arsed spending the season with 75% of the fanbase wanting him gone from the start, I've already sacked off the match day threads for my own sanity.

brap2 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2026 11:27 am Closer to relegation last season than the season previous weren’t we?

Hope and the club impose some expectation and don’t allow too much grace based on sentimentality.

Achieve or leave.