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Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:53 pm
by Kerryblueboy
No way we should be giving the duke another contract can be replaced wages way too high for his output

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:10 pm
by AjaxAndy
Kerryblueboy wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:53 pm No way we should be giving the duke another contract can be replaced wages way too high for his output
Reduced wages only for me. Remember to replace him probably costs £15m minimum which we can't probably afford when we need to spend in so many areas.

A one year deal, used as backup, reduced wages, replace the following summer.

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:48 pm
by HANNU
AjaxAndy wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:10 pm Reduced wages only for me. Remember to replace him probably costs £15m minimum which we can't probably afford when we need to spend in so many areas.

A one year deal, used as backup, reduced wages, replace the following summer.
i think alcaraz is dukes replacement

i love the Duke but he is getting well past his best, he played really well against leicester but in many other games he has been poor

unless he goes on an unbelievable run of form i think this will be his last season

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:58 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Duke should take the Saudi cash for a couple of years and wind down that way would hate to see him deteriorate here

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:06 pm
by bigmanbob
Coincidence he's looking a lot better under Moyes? Dyche just sucked the life out of this team. I agree his days are numbered and football ability is limited but if he can start scoring again it moves the goal posts for me

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:36 pm
by AjaxAndy
HANNU wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:48 pm i think alcaraz is dukes replacement

i love the Duke but he is getting well past his best, he played really well against leicester but in many other games he has been poor

unless he goes on an unbelievable run of form i think this will be his last season
Hard to know with Alcaraz as we've not signed him permanently (yet).

We need bodies regardless, Gana, Garner, Timmy, Alcaraz is still not much depth for 3 positions.

Keep Doucs, add one other + Lindstrom and I feel that works.

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:39 pm
by HANNU
AjaxAndy wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:36 pm Hard to know with Alcaraz as we've not signed him permanently (yet).

We need bodies regardless, Gana, Garner, Timmy, Alcaraz is still not much depth for 3 positions.

Keep Doucs, add one other + Lindstrom and I feel that works.
we also have Mcneil who is better in the middle than on the wing

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:41 pm
by AjaxAndy
HANNU wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:39 pm we also have Mcneil who is better in the middle than on the wing
I keep forgetting McNeil exists for some reason!

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:42 pm
by Kerryblueboy
Be interesting to see where Moyes plays McNeil when he returns

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:19 pm
by 777Kidnappings
bigmanbob wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:06 pm Coincidence he's looking a lot better under Moyes? Dyche just sucked the life out of this team. I agree his days are numbered and football ability is limited but if he can start scoring again it moves the goal posts for me
Has he been looking better under moyes. Was great against leicester but he was awful against Brighton. Don't really remember what he did and didn't do against spurs and villa

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:20 pm
by American Evertonian
Escalator wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:16 pm What’s the rumour supposed to be, that we were ever interested or that we made an offer and it was rejected or that we are looking to sign him still ? Probably none of the above.
Rumor was we were in for him. We never made a bid though. Have watched him before and may be one for the future but nothing concrete this window

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:21 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Wonder what decision we'd make on DCL if we get the option.

The only way he stays is if his form and injury means he's not getting the offers he was hoping for but if his stock is significantly lower then surely our offer should reflect that too

Not sure giving him a payrise to stay would be sensible at this point

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:25 pm
by Escalator
777Kidnappings wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:21 pm Wonder what decision we'd make on DCL if we get the option.

The only way he stays is if his form and injury means he's not getting the offers he was hoping for but if his stock is significantly lower then surely our offer should reflect that too

Not sure giving him a payrise to stay would be sensible at this point
He’s on £120 k a week, no club on this planet is going to offer him that, he’s made his bed by not signing, no way should he be offered a new contract for that much.

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:29 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Escalator wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:25 pm He’s on £120 k a week, no club on this planet is going to offer him that, he’s made his bed by not signing, no way should he be offered a new contract for that much.
Totally agree. Think it was reported some months ago that we'd offered him a small payrise.
Personally I think we have to move away from him because of both form and injuries unless he's significantly cheaper. Maybe 50% which he isn't going to take and would still be a risk to us

Re: January transfer window

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:29 pm
by UnsyisaRhino
Escalator wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:25 pm He’s on £120 k a week, no club on this planet is going to offer him that, he’s made his bed by not signing, no way should he be offered a new contract for that much.
Totally agree, it's not even about his ability, it's about availability.

We can't keep paying a fortune for players who either aren't fit, or aren't good enough.

Keane is another one who has to go for a similar reason. Doucs at least gets on the pitch and contributes even if it's in a limited capacity.