The Moshiri era

[Gash]

Not too bothered about Lookman, you could blame Allardyce for some of it but from what I remember he wanted out pretty quick as he wasn't getting games even though he didn't do that much to justify it, think there was a few questions over his attitude at the time as well. Had a poor return to Leipzig and didn't set the world on fire after that either Fulham or Leicester and hasn't seen more than half his contract out at any club before being moved on. Fair play to him he's settled down at Atalanta and has done well but it was 3-4 years after leaving us before he showed any level of consistency so it's hard to pin that on the club, he's well down the list of Moshiri fuck ups.

[Bluedylan1]

I always really liked Lookman and thought we mismanaged him terribly. Could see there was a mass of talent there, even through his ups and downs.

To think he's an African player of the year and Ballon D'Or nominee if anything illustrates how badly we handled him. I actually think we were partly responsible for him taking a while to do it even after he left us. We were such a shitshow that we fucked up a couple of his key developmental years.

Dreadful football club we've been.

[Gash]

Still don't think he's near the top but you could certainly add him to a long list of younger players we've badly miss managed and let down over the years, whether that's directly down to the managers or the situation that Moshiri generated is up for debate, probably a bit of both.

[Kerryblueboy]

Did he score in that 4-0 win against city as well as Davies

[Raptor]

I always really liked Lookman and thought we mismanaged him terribly. Could see there was a mass of talent there, even through his ups and downs.

To think he's an African player of the year and Ballon D'Or nominee if anything illustrates how badly we handled him. I actually think we were partly responsible for him taking a while to do it even after he left us. We were such a shitshow that we fucked up a couple of his key developmental years.

Dreadful football club we've been.

We'll never know, but it would be interesting to see if he gets a move back to the Premier League and replicates this form, I'm not sure he will. He's done well in other formats, but maybe he's just more suited to the Italian game, which is fine, and there have been plenty of better players than him that have performed at an amazing level in Italy, got massive accolades, then flopped after big moves - Veron, Shevchenko, Kaka etc

[Stumpy]

Did he score in that 4-0 win against city as well as Davies

He did, banged the last one in

[Jamokachi]

Lookman was bad timing and maturity imo. After us, he did pretty poor at Leipzig, Fulham and Leicester, its not like he went on from us and tore it up everywhere. Hes had good success at Atlanta and fair play to him, but I think thats hard to pin on us, where in reality it happened a lot to him

But that talent was always there, so if we'd have been a better, more nurturing and stable environment we might have benefitted from what Atlanta are seeing. They've given him an environment to flourish, we never could.

[Jamokachi]

Best game - 0-2 Away win against Liverpool
Worst game - Everton 2 - 5 Watford
Best signing - Pickford (but my heart says Richarlison)
Worst signing - Tosun (garbage, expensive, boot licker, spray on hair)
Craziest moment - Probably the stadium. For all the circus that's surrounded us, we'll exit all this with something pretty amazing.
Best manager - Carlo
Worst manager - Benitez

[Raptor]

But that talent was always there, so if we'd have been a better, more nurturing and stable environment we might have benefitted from what Atlanta are seeing. They've given him an environment to flourish, we never could.

I agree, and I'm not saying this is right, but I'm not sure there are many teams in the league that do give those opportunities. You've probably have Southampton who invest, and stick with their youth for their benefit, but it's often at the clubs detriment, and they go up and down.
It's probably the hardest league in the world for a young player to come through due to the financial pressure, and what failure equates too. As an individual I'm not sure many get afforded the opportunity to develop they way most would generally like, you either hit the ground running, or your done. I always recall Spurs being a bit of a graveyard for any young player they signed, similarly, the amount of talent bombed out of Chelsea is remarkable

[Toddacelli]

Another Moshiri Madness Moment: we bought the fucking Liver Buildings!

[Audrey Horne]

I don't see the derby win as the best game because of no fans there. Defo soured it a bit.

[Blueomar]

Another Moshiri Madness Moment: we bought the fucking Liver Buildings!

And didn't even have the sense to paint them blue. WTF?

[toffee_scot]

One other mad Moshiri moment - conducting a “strategic review” of the club with the help of the very same people on the board who fucked things up for years and not consulting any outside parties except getting advice from Bills mate Tim Cahill who advised to sign Frank Lampard as manager. Then over a year after this was conducted we found ourselves at one point 35 minutes away from relegation until Doucoure saved us.

[Toddacelli]

More madness - a recruitment strategy lead by the agent Joorachabian.

[Jamokachi]

I agree, and I'm not saying this is right, but I'm not sure there are many teams in the league that do give those opportunities. You've probably have Southampton who invest, and stick with their youth for their benefit, but it's often at the clubs detriment, and they go up and down.
It's probably the hardest league in the world for a young player to come through due to the financial pressure, and what failure equates too. As an individual I'm not sure many get afforded the opportunity to develop they way most would generally like, you either hit the ground running, or your done. I always recall Spurs being a bit of a graveyard for any young player they signed, similarly, the amount of talent bombed out of Chelsea is remarkable

There's all this, but, we'd have only need to have been a semblance more sane to have seen real benefit from the talent that's passed us by.