David Moyes

[Blues Mahoney]

We've been largely crap this season and that's what is worrying me at the minute.

We've carried straight on from last season but got some favourable results. Let's be honest we haven't looked good in any of the games.

The 'unbeaten run' was against pretty crap teams, all in the bottom half currently, barring Hull who are level 10th with us, and we could only beat 2 of them.

We got a bit lucky against Bournemouth, Spurs battered us for the first 20 minutes and should have been ahead. Same with Palace. It took a last second equaliser to get a point at home against a very poor Utd side.

All in all we've looked crap and had a pretty easy start looking at it. We're now coming up against the better teams and we're getting swatted aside without any trouble. Our run from now until January looks bad apart from a couple of fixtures and I'm getting a bit concerned tbh.

The performances have got to improve and by a reasonable margin, otherwise it's more easy wins for the opposition and us plummeting towards the wrong end of the table.

[TheRam]

This is for everyone saying two years (four windows) wasn’t enough time to properly rebuild this squad.

[Shogun]

As someone who is generally calm about these things, I'm worried here.

This is Moyes at his absolute worst and maybe we play Newcastle in the cup with Hackney/Dibling/George and it's a great success which sees him change some stuff up. But if that doesn't happen then I can't see this team winning many Premier League matches.

You look at the two wins we've had. Palace should definitely have been at least 2-0 up, possibly 3-0, and they're actually crap this season. Ipswich had 10 men and we were hanging on.

Grealish isn't going to score goals. Johnson isn't. Barry needs 5 to score 1. KDH has gone off it massively on the goal contribution front so far. Armstrong and Garner lack creativity. The fullback areas lack creativity.

Where are the goals coming from? Our xGA stats are 11th for the season so far defensively and that's with a comfortable set of fixtures to kick off the season, so it's not like we can depend on 1-0/2-0 scorelines.

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The other point is Hull who were supposed certainties to go down have the same amount of points as us. Ipswich have the same amount of points as us. (They play each other next weekend btw).

I'm not seeing a lot of terrible teams in this league that we're going to finish ahead of unless something drastic changes with us.

[Cozzie]

Yeah I don't think it's out of the question we are bang in trouble this season.

With City potentially getting booted out there could only be 2 relegation slots this year, but even still, it's a concern given the form.

2 in 16 now isn't it and they weren't that impressive wins as has been said.

Need to recruit in Jan, but we won't.

40 points please Mr Moyes then you can fuck off.

[Blues Mahoney]

I agree.

In contrast, I'm definitely a bit of a flapper, but I'm trying to remain calm for a change.

I'm not getting good vibes though. I don't like the look of this run coming up. Moyes might get points where not expected like he often does. I hope so.

[Cozzie]

I mean, if he just bloody well started George on the right and stopped fucking pissing about with Johnson and got Hackney in we'd be ok.

It's the small changes that would make a world of difference.

[TheRam]

Right in it for me.

We’ve been horrible since the turn of the year.

This is a massive slump that isn’t going to be turned round.

Exactly the same thing happened at West Ham for him.

[777Kidnappings]

Not really the issue but we shouldnt have loaned grealish.... either time. We seem incapable of just signing what we actually need. Theyve no ability to build a functioning team

Not sure how much trouble we are in but we are playing for 48 points and 13 again

[Shogun]

I find it bizarre when people think Grealish is a problem, on the pitch at least.

[777Kidnappings]

I find it bizarre when people think Grealish is a problem, on the pitch at least.

Hes not the problem but its not like he was a missing piece. Aiding the flying mykonlenko and winning free kicks that garner puts in with pinpoint accuracy. His profile wasnt what our team needed though his quality does negate that. We just sign players cos they are available not because we have a picture of where our team is going

[Indiantoffee75]

The home fixtures against Coventry, Fulham and Sunderland are key. It's then picking up the odd point or two away from home.

Agree though, grim winter awaits.

[blueToffee]

I think overall there are worse teams. Even though Palace should've been ahead, clearly they're still very vulnerable too given how easily we scored against them and should've had more. Sunderland with Europe seem like they'll be in bother too. Then mix in the promoted teams and Man City thing and there should be enough leeway.

We are playing poorly though, and when you're watching other teams there aren't that many who look as bad as we have done. So there is no room for complacency and it likely will be a tough slog to stay out of trouble.

Plenty of blame to go around unfortunately. Moyes is making it worse with his selections. The squad is threadbare, and even with a very progressive manager ultimately we still lack natural finishers and goals. Whatever you think of them, we've taken out two of our top scorers in Beto and Ndiaye, and basically haven't really replaced them...so it's very little surprise that we're lacking a cutting edge. It's going to be tough to get anyone of quality in January too if our form doesn't improve, and with the club ownership situation.

The only hope is that we play Hackney and Dibling and we start to look a bit better in attack...but that's a somewhat big IF right now. That and find some good players in the January window...

It sucks though that we had a little hint of momentum with George and Dibling and it's been basically torpedoed between Grealish getting up to fitness, Johnson just not really doing anything and Hackney getting splinters on the bench. As for a moment toward the end of preseason we actually looked a bit youthful and energetic in our midfield with Armstrong in there too.

I'd not be too surprised at this point to see us going back to JOB at RB again though and just try to and more physicality and get some goals from set pieces.

[Cereal Killer]

We aren’t signing anyone decent in January, who’d actually want to join us?

Owners who aren’t arsed and want to sell, a manager who’s probably leaving in the summer, and a CEO who’s a complete muppet

We’ll get the desperate and/or shite nobody else wants

[AjaxAndy]

I find it bizarre when people think Grealish is a problem, on the pitch at least.

By the end of this season we'll have paid around £30m for him to play about 40 games.

Would it have been better squad building to buy someone like Doue with that money instead?

Probably. It's definitely what Brighton, Bournemouth etc would have done.

[Shogun]

By the end of this season we'll have paid around £30m for him to play about 40 games.

Would it have been better squad building to buy someone like Doue with that money instead?

Probably. It's definitely what Brighton, Bournemouth etc would have done.

Well if we signed Doue then he'd probably be on the bench by now after being at blame for a couple of goals, so there's no point comparing us to those clubs with Moyes here