What sort of football suits Everton best?
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What sort of football suits Everton best?
I was thinking about the atmosphere at our games and what the crowd in general responds to. Forget the current manager and players and in an ideal scenario five years from now what type of football would our fans best respond to?
1) High possession and control (Guardiola's City, De Zerbi's Brighton)
2) High press and intensity (Klopp's Liverpool, Pochettino's Spurs)
3) Low block pragmatism (Dyche's Burnley, Mourinho's Chelsea)
4) High speed counter-attack (Ferguson's United, Ranieri's Leicester)
5) Set-Piece/marginal gains (Arteta's Arsenal, Pulis' Stoke)
6) Outscore the opposition even if you concede (Bielsa's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle)
For me it's either the high pressing team or the counter attacking team as we're too nervous of a crowd to comfortably hold small leads and too inpatient for high possession.
No idea how to make it into a poll so if a Mod can do that I'd appreciate it
1) High possession and control (Guardiola's City, De Zerbi's Brighton)
2) High press and intensity (Klopp's Liverpool, Pochettino's Spurs)
3) Low block pragmatism (Dyche's Burnley, Mourinho's Chelsea)
4) High speed counter-attack (Ferguson's United, Ranieri's Leicester)
5) Set-Piece/marginal gains (Arteta's Arsenal, Pulis' Stoke)
6) Outscore the opposition even if you concede (Bielsa's Leeds, Keegan's Newcastle)
For me it's either the high pressing team or the counter attacking team as we're too nervous of a crowd to comfortably hold small leads and too inpatient for high possession.
No idea how to make it into a poll so if a Mod can do that I'd appreciate it
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Klopp or Ferguson.
I hate to say that but both were brilliant to watch and exactly what we need here.
We don't have the quality or pace really though, maybe one day it will align for us.
I hate to say that but both were brilliant to watch and exactly what we need here.
We don't have the quality or pace really though, maybe one day it will align for us.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Sadly I think you need to recruit very very well and have a deep, fit squad for gegenpressing to work in this league. Hassenhuttl & Marsh both tried it with poorer teams and ultimately failed.Blues Mahoney wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2026 12:52 pm Klopp or Ferguson.
I hate to say that but both were brilliant to watch and exactly what we need here.
We don't have the quality or pace really though, maybe one day it will align for us.
Counter attacking though could really suit us and the likes of Leicester and Glasner's Palace have shown how effective it can be even with a "lesser" squad
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Just play...control, pass, move
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Our crowd would be getting newty as soon as a pass goes backward to retain possession
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
2) High press and intensity (Klopp's Liverpool, Pochettino's Spurs)
For a number of reasons.
Always something happening even without the ball.
Players look like they are trying and they give a shit.
You don't need to spend a fortune on players as long as they buy into it.
Gets the crowd onside.
The anti Moyes if you will.
For a number of reasons.
Always something happening even without the ball.
Players look like they are trying and they give a shit.
You don't need to spend a fortune on players as long as they buy into it.
Gets the crowd onside.
The anti Moyes if you will.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Martinez's first season was pretty special. I think we can definitely cope with possession football as a fanbase. The only one who has really tried it since Martinez is Lampard, so we don't have the best reference point really. Ancelotti did a little too I think but then he realised his defence included Godfrey, Holgate and Keane.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
It depends on what we'd accept I guess.
Glasner did brilliantly with Palace playing extreme quick direct counter attacks, but long term would we be happy with something effective but maybe with a ceiling?
For me that's probably the most fruitful of the realistic options.
High press fast footy would be my preference ala Klopp but we don't have the find for the players required and depth needed. We also are absolutely horrible at squad building and succession planning, so achieving something like this just seems impossible.
Glasner did brilliantly with Palace playing extreme quick direct counter attacks, but long term would we be happy with something effective but maybe with a ceiling?
For me that's probably the most fruitful of the realistic options.
High press fast footy would be my preference ala Klopp but we don't have the find for the players required and depth needed. We also are absolutely horrible at squad building and succession planning, so achieving something like this just seems impossible.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
What wed accept? We have accepted the most dreadful shite imaginable from this club. Awful managers, awful playsrs, awful football, incomplete squads.
I think all we really want is competent football. Any style will do if we actually have the squad to play it and we do it reasonably well.
We dont accept possession football because we cant play it
I think all we really want is competent football. Any style will do if we actually have the squad to play it and we do it reasonably well.
We dont accept possession football because we cant play it
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
I like direct positive football good pressing without the ball and playing quicker with it hate the passing across the back 4 only for Pickford to lump it long get possession be brave on the ball
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I'm not really that arsed about adopting any specific style as such. I just want to watch Everton playing proper football, players getting stuck in and having a go. Fuck giving it a fancy name, I just want to see fight in the players for a full 90 minutes, giving everything they have. I want to see genuine desire to win games, not the turgid, negative, defensive shite that we have seen from multiple managers, including the current incumbent.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
#2 at home, #4 away.
It’s a bit unfair to put Fergie in one category because he used most of these styles when he needed to. But he had the dual advantages of a dedicated group of top class academy grads who would do whatever he asked along with the ability to outspend the rest of the league to fill out the squad. So he could chop and change easier than most.
It seems increasingly rare to find coaches that adapt well situationally. Most of the ones who do tend to have the most expensive squads and best players.
It’s a bit unfair to put Fergie in one category because he used most of these styles when he needed to. But he had the dual advantages of a dedicated group of top class academy grads who would do whatever he asked along with the ability to outspend the rest of the league to fill out the squad. So he could chop and change easier than most.
It seems increasingly rare to find coaches that adapt well situationally. Most of the ones who do tend to have the most expensive squads and best players.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Yeah. i know the wheels fell off after it, but that first season was great, with some outstanding results and performances.Shogun wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2026 2:01 pm Martinez's first season was pretty special. I think we can definitely cope with possession football as a fanbase. The only one who has really tried it since Martinez is Lampard, so we don't have the best reference point really. Ancelotti did a little too I think but then he realised his defence included Godfrey, Holgate and Keane.
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Re: What sort of football suits Everton best?
Didn't have to. Should've started expressing your disagreement mate.777Kidnappings wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2026 2:33 pm What we'd accept? We have accepted the most dreadful shite imaginable from this club.