Man Utd - relegation?

[TheRam]

Bit of a side note, but it was interesting how it was fabregas vs carrick last night and fabregas schooled him.

Look at all the ex Spanish players as managers these days. Arteta, Alonso, Iraola, Fabregas, Xavi, there’s probably loads more I’ve missed off.

Then look at the ex English players. Carrick, Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Wilshere, both the Nevilles

All shite, other than Lampard who will have a decent career but will he ever go to the top?

Says a lot that imo. For some reason, this country can not produce high level managers, whilst other countries in Europe can at a good rate.

[Gash]

It's quite telling that no English manager has ever won the Premier League. Howard Wilkinson was the last to win a title with Leeds in the old First Division.

[Cereal Killer]

Jamie Carragher calling anyone a disgrace for their behavior always amuses me, scummy wanker

[blueToffee]

Bit of a side note, but it was interesting how it was fabregas vs carrick last night and fabregas schooled him.

Look at all the ex Spanish players as managers these days. Arteta, Alonso, Iraola, Fabregas, Xavi, there’s probably loads more I’ve missed off.

Then look at the ex English players. Carrick, Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Wilshere, both the Nevilles

All shite, other than Lampard who will have a decent career but will he ever go to the top?

Says a lot that imo. For some reason, this country can not produce high level managers, whilst other countries in Europe can at a good rate.

It's hard to really say because he's never really been tested, but Lee Carsley's approach was probably one of the more interesting I've seen from an England manager in his caretaker role. Plus of course his time with the U-21s.

In a world where say a Man United would trust him with the role, they might actually be pleasantly surprised.

But yeah, it's very slim pickings.

Proven by the kind of example I've just given really.

[Bluedylan1]

As many people much smarter than me have said, there's a strong culture of anti-intellectualism that runs through the entirety of English society, nevermind football.

Our coaches, pundits, media are still focusing heavily on pashun, intensity, physicality etc over things like tactics. Our coaches are never at the forefront of tactical innovations. There's lots of English managers who are either still trying to learn the Guardiola methods from like 10-15 years ago, or disavow them, when the top Spanish and German coaches are already well beyond that, and have found ways to beat that style or evolve it.

[weimaranerblues]

We get everywhere ,
Loads retweets

[Evertonfc15]

As many people much smarter than me have said, there's a strong culture of anti-intellectualism that runs through the entirety of English society, nevermind football.

Our coaches, pundits, media are still focusing heavily on pashun, intensity, physicality etc over things like tactics. Our coaches are never at the forefront of tactical innovations. There's lots of English managers who are either still trying to learn the Guardiola methods from like 10-15 years ago, or disavow them, when the top Spanish and German coaches are already well beyond that, and have found ways to beat that style or evolve it.

does this explain why we have only won one world cup as a national team in our history
or
more likely that we know our prem league is or probably was..... the best league in the world due to the quality of our teams made up of foreign players with immense skills and able to play the way the managers want them to play - take all these players out/away and you have mostly ok players playing in the national team - with the obvious exceptions - and we lack the flair skill etc of all the foreign players when our national team plays - and lack the skills to play like the manager wants us to - hence we keep failing as a nation to win trophies

[Shogun]

[Audrey Horne]

Oooooof

[Cozzie]

That starting 11 is pants.

[Shogun]

hahaha

[Audrey Horne]

🫪

[TheRam]

Feel like carrick has lost his head massively and made the players turn against him.

[777Kidnappings]

Does it even matter. They'd get away with another 20 years of being as poorly run as they have been the last team.

[Indiantoffee75]

Howe the front runner to takeover.

Add another to the list of managers be sacked inside 12 months if this happens.