Hayden Hackney

[sam of the south]

Norgaard can't get fit quick enough.

Feels like for the role we are asking Garner to play he's half of the player we need.

Hackney's first thought is get it out of his feet and either move forward with the ball or look to play for ball forward.

You then have the KDH conundrum in front of that. Good enough to play but not good enough to always play.

Rohl will come into the equation too with his long strides and ability to move forwards quickly.

Armstrong we still don't know what kind of player he'll turn out to be but he's a massive talent.

I don't know how all the pieces will end up working but I think Hackney needs to be a large part of it.

This would all be well and good if we had a manager who liked to rotate and use the squad to counter the opposition, but we just don’t

[TheRam]

This is great to see.

[Cereal Killer]

This is great to see.

Almost as good as Iwobi

[superpull]

Almost as good as Iwobi

Retains nearly as much as Ross Barkley as well.

[brap2]

Two of my faves ever getting mentioned here

[Bumble]

15 mins on the wing.

Not sure I would picked that before the game.

[Shogun]

Played once previously on the right wing since becoming a pro.

Moyes needs to stop treating him like he's a naive 19 year old on the back of a decent season in the championship. He's 24 and has nearly 200 appearances to his name. More than ready to start matches in his proper position for us.

[Cozzie]

Played once previously on the right wing since becoming a pro.

Moyes needs to stop treating him like he's a naive 19 year old on the back of a decent season in the championship. He's 24 and has nearly 200 appearances to his name. More than ready to start matches in his proper position for us.

I think this just sums Moyes up though, we'll always see instances like this.

He's been managing since 1998. Doubt we are gonna see a change in his ways now.

I just want to move on from him now.

[AjaxAndy]

Remember when other teams apparently wanted him, but he only wanted to come here.

Wasn't sure why at the time, and I think I understand even less now.

*Didn't see the game as driving back from a family emergency, but on the radio Norgaard sounded like he shouldn't have even been on the pitch

[TheRam]

Remember when other teams apparently wanted him, but he only wanted to come here.

Wasn't sure why at the time, and I think I understand even less now.

*Didn't see the game as driving back from a family emergency, but on the radio Norgaard sounded like he shouldn't have even been on the pitch

I think it’s reasonable to say Norgaard put in the worst performance ever seen in an Everton shirt.

[Bumble]

An absolute disgrace that Norgaard gets on before him, especially when we’re looking for a goal.

Well within his right to have a face like a slapped arse on Monday in training. Him and Dibling.

[brap2]

Norgaard actually ended up pushed up the pitch as well where we could have done with Hayden Hurst Helmsley.

[Cods]

This is great to see.

I don't mind Hackney, zippy clean passes, always quick with the ball, drives us forward, but I think his positioning and awareness so far have been a bit lax.

Probably settling in to a new set up and little opportunity. Can understand that. Can't really draw much from less than two hours of footy.


Regarding that graph -

One start at home against a confused Palace side, and two late sub appearances desperately chasing games against Bournemouth and Man United... I'm not sure that graph is illustrative or representative.

Despite Mossman's disclaimer, why even put out a chart like this - it's so not helpful that is actually unhelpful. Wasn't at the time, and even less now. Gotta pay the bills I guess.

Who even reads the disclaimer?

6 of the top 10 in this linebreaking stat are actually central defenders for a start.

Mac Allister with 2.5x times as many line breaking passes than Cherki (in less than two full matches of footy).

At the same stage Cherki actually had 2 goals, 2 assists and 6 crosses, and Mac Allister had absolutely none...is that helpful?

"Illustrative" apparently... of what I'm not sure.

[Cereal Killer]

I assume it’s just to try and show the shite have the best three CMs in the history of football

[brap2]

I don't mind Hackney, zippy clean passes, always quick with the ball, drives us forward, but I think his positioning and awareness so far have been a bit lax.

Probably settling in to a new set up and little opportunity. Can understand that. Can't really draw much from less than two hours of footy.


Regarding that graph -

One start at home against a confused Palace side, and two late sub appearances desperately chasing games against Bournemouth and Man United... I'm not sure that graph is illustrative or representative.

Despite Mossman's disclaimer, why even put out a chart like this - it's so not helpful that is actually unhelpful. Wasn't at the time, and even less now. Gotta pay the bills I guess.

Who even reads the disclaimer?

6 of the top 10 in this linebreaking stat are actually central defenders for a start.

Mac Allister with 2.5x times as many line breaking passes than Cherki (in less than two full matches of footy).

At the same stage Cherki actually had 2 goals, 2 assists and 6 crosses, and Mac Allister had absolutely none...is that helpful?

"Illustrative" apparently... of what I'm not sure.

Illustrative of progressing between lines?

CBS and deeper midfielders will profile better than am and 10s because of their position on the pitch and you are expected to exercise some understanding of that when looking at the graph.

Cherki and Pascal Gross constantly find players in the box, but aren’t progressing through the lines all the time because they themselves are usually high end receivers.

Someone like James garner has an outstanding pass completion but is below average for progressive - so he’s safe but compared to the league he’s not very adventurous despite us probably needing him to because he’s usually our deepest midfielder.