Man City found guilty of 114 charges

[Cozzie]

The other 19 clubs coming together to sue the arse off City.

This could blow the roof off of football this.

[NomadskiEFC]

From the BBC article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 9jjwy4nqpo

One source, who held a senior executive position at one Premier League club before moving to another, said they expected clubs to submit individual compensation claims against Manchester City.

Angus Kinnear perhaps?

I'm sure there are plenty of other senior executives that have bounced from different clubs to others, but I immediately thought of our CEO when I read it.

I do wonder what precedent they will follow, our massive kick up the arse, or Chelsea's ridiculously light wrist tap. If any of us are alive to actually see the result, I would veer towards the tappy wrist tbh.

[Blueomar]

Tbh as a city fan don't think I'd care.

Still had those moments winning everything.

Just because they get voided, it wouldn't change anything for me.

Exactly, USC lost a national championship and their star player, Reggie Bush, was stripped of his Heisman trophy, under similar circumstances. No fan of USC views those titles empty.

[777Kidnappings]

I think this is a really valid point when you think their current superiority was built on persistent rule breaking. Clubs now live with an SCR imposition which effectively ring fences all City's annual revenue advantage to remain out of touch of any would be challengers.

Its like a drugs ban in sport and when they come back they are still 10ft tall or sprinting the 100 in 7 seconds. How can they be allowed to compete

[Evertonfc15]

The issue with stripping titles is the follow on from it. You award the title to the runners up from that season, and then you have the team who finished 5th taking legal action for loss of earnings due to only being in the Europa League, rather than Champions League, 7th place complaining about loss of earnings due to not getting a Europa League place. Then you have every team in the league arguing that they have lost out on some PL prize money due to League placing. Where does it stop?

just strip city of all their titles
each season marked VOID with an asterisk - Financial Doping
and
cant see the prem league awarding titles cups retrospectively
lime you say that creates a legal nightmare
but just VOIDING their titles would work and acknowledge the shame and cheating created and carried out by their current owners
again nothing against the city fans

[4evablu]

Recent history and performance tells you this “committee” who decide these outcomes will turn it into a farcical outcome…
I don’t believe the precedent they set in our punishment will even come into it most people outside our fan base don’t even remember what our punishment was…on talksport evening show yesterday they were actually saying we “only got a 6 point deduction”
For me stripping titles etc means nothing…a mere paper exercise….as people will always remember them wining titles and trophies…
This has to be a very large substantial fine for being found guilty of committing the offences in the first instance..PLUS
A substantial compensation financial package for all clubs involved in the premier league since all this began….including all relegated clubs…..what they have to bear in mind here is there’s also clubs involved throughout the timescale who played by the books and rightly had no sanctions imposed on them but suffered through lose of league positions…beaten in finals etc…..

[Blues Mahoney]

The fact that they allowed Burnley to sue us is pathetic and now looks what's about to happen.

Yes, punishment for their crimes from the footballing body sure, but suing each other as well?

What an absolute mess. State of English football now is a complete joke.

[Shogun]

[777Kidnappings]

They could put city in league 1 and theyd still win 5 Premier leagues before we qualified for the champions league (could be 20)

Thats the problem though you actually cant put right what they've done at this point

We might laugh at some big punishment and the stripping of titles but long term they've almost certainly won anyway.

[Granite]

Still think the PL will take a pretty conservative approach to City’s punishment as they will want to make sure they aren’t open to being sued by media companies, as even one voided season means thousands of hours of PL footage is essentially worthless. All those Premier League Years shows on Sky will be redundant. When they make those pre-game highlights packages of previous meetings between two teams, all void. Gets so messy.

Think we’re going to see capitalistic reality over ethics and morality.

[Cozzie]

Think they should be kicked out of the Caraboa cup, replace them with Norwich or whoever it was they beat in the previous round. Similar to how Southampton where replaced by Boro for spy gate.

Don't allow them to compete in the F.A cup.

They could realistically be kicked out of cup competitions as its easy to do a reshuffle.

Never happen but they shouldn't be allowed to play in certain competitions having being found guilty. It would be a start anyway.

[NickNack]

They need to be hit hard - points deduction, and from the date the cheating started until the verdict was announced - bans from any cup competition including europe / world club etc, plus a limit on transfers / transfer spending.

Won’t happen like

[777Kidnappings]

In terms of putting them back where they were plus a punishment it would have to be stripping them of all titles, having points deductions and transfer bans over multiple seasons and multiple relegations as a punishment ..


What will happen is somewhere between a points deduction what they might just survive and 2 relegations probably alongside the stripping of titles. Which means anywhere from 1 to 3 or 4 seasons from then theres every chance theyll be the best side in England again. Theres literally no chance that 13 or 14 other premier league sides could be the best side in europe in 5 years. City could do it starting in league 1

There is no punishment even being talked about that would right this

They probably should be excluded for a very extended period. The premier league is a members club of sorts. They've just found out 1 of the 20 have been robbing the others blind for a decade and that everything since has been built on that

If city win another premier league ever while ffp is in place then they have won massively because ffp doesn't allow most of the other members to win

[Bumble]

None of us wouldn’t have wanted the past 15 years where they came in and gave the establishment a bloody nose and rode roughshod over the red cartel.

How can it be right that an owner who wants to inject money into a club as a gift and not debt, regenerate an area of a city, develop a top drawer youth academy that has benefitted other clubs on the pyramid and has added more competitiveness into a league is supposed to be the villain of football. Over someone like the Glazers whose sole aim is saddle a top club with more and more debt, strip funds out and offshore every year and has ripped the soul out of a club but that’s okay.

Yes rules are rules but maybe the PL needs to tear up its own blueprint and start again to make it a fairer playing field to start with.

[Blueomar]

Kicked out of Champions league for 5 years going forward would be a nice start. Sorry, Iliman.