Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall

[brap2]

Both nominally tens for Everton club de futbol?

Both should be replaced by genuine midfielders?

Kdh could play cm I think tho even if he is a bit little and unathletic.

Makes sense imo.

Sigurdsson one of the worst uses of money we’ve ever ever ever done. But his ability as a player was another league to KDH.

[AndSeel]

Can honestly say, I never expected the name Sigurdsson to be mentioned in a discussion about KDH.

fuck's sake.

Saw a fella call him the white Doucoure on twitter yesterday.

[Indiantoffee75]

Three week break has come at the right time for him. A slight dip in form since he joined. Reset and go again in October.

[Kerryblueboy]

He hasn’t turned into a bad player just out of form Moyes flogging him and not giving him a rest ain’t helping would love to see dibling given a go in the 10

[AjaxAndy]

Interesting how he's gone from many people saying he should be captain before his injury last season, to now being branded worse than Sigurdsson and the white Doucoure.

Not saying our fans are a fickle bunch... But if the cap fits.

[brap2]

I’d like to see him as part of a proper 3, or replaced by Hackney as part of a three (with Norgaard sitting in both cases probably).

Whether that happens is anyone’s guess, but I don’t think he’s a ten or if this sort of 10 role can work for anyone really.

His job seems to be press like a striker, arrive in the box like an 8, stay close to jack.

Edit : also I’ll drop the sig stuff. I stand by it but recognise it is absolute international friendly chat and is ultimately pointless.

[SouthBlue]

KDH was like this last season at the start: some goals and good moments with a lot of bad lightweight moments. Then he was excellent for the middle section of the season, before tailing off, like everybody else, in the last section

[Matt1878]

Alcaraz came in and scored v Wolves, he's a natural replacement and it would do KDH good to know there is someone pressing him. Also KDH never stops running, and knowing someone can step in on the hour or later occasionally, if you're gassed, is no bad thing.

[StirlingBlue]

I didn’t think the Sigurdsson shout would be so decisive.

Both are players who want to play off the striker, don’t get involved enough in the build up or dictate play like a traditional ten would but get a lot of goals and assists for a midfielder.

For what they’ve done at Everton they’re both at a goal involvement roughly every three games

[TheRam]

Both nominally tens for Everton club de futbol?

Both should be replaced by genuine midfielders?

Kdh could play cm I think tho even if he is a bit little and unathletic.

Makes sense imo.

Sigurdsson one of the worst uses of money we’ve ever ever ever done. But his ability as a player was another league to KDH.

Sigurdsson couldn’t pass, couldn’t get on the ball, couldn’t dribble, couldn’t tackle, was generally awful off the ball leaving gaps everywhere

I thought he was a terrible footballer who played in an era where he could get away with a lot more.

Other than scoring bangers and set pieces, KDH is better in every way imo

[TheRam]

Didn’t mean that emoji cba to edit

[brap2]

Sigurdsson couldn’t pass, couldn’t get on the ball, couldn’t dribble, couldn’t tackle, was generally awful off the ball leaving gaps everywhere

I thought he was a terrible footballer who played in an era where he could get away with a lot more.

Other than scoring bangers and set pieces, KDH is better in every way imo

Well like I say I’m gunna leave it because it’s pointless but dewsbury hall has one season doing any thing at all in the prem which is doing a lot of heavy lifting for him, and even that season wasn’t that good.

[AjaxAndy]

Probably not a coincidence that the person who dubbed him Dudsbury-Small almost immediately after signing him is also now saying he's worse than Sigurdsson.

Confirmation bias and all that.

[brap2]

Probably not a coincidence that the person who dubbed him Dudsbury-Small almost immediately after signing him is also now saying he's worse than Sigurdsson.

Confirmation bias and all that.

Is it even that controversial a shout? Is Sigurdsson now seen as some sort of completely useless joke?

I had extremely strong feelings about signing sig and bashed him relentlessly during his time here, but he has SEVERAL double figure g+a prem seasons under his belt (three back to back at one point!), even managing two at us.

Dewsbury hall has ONE and he’s 28 years old?

Why are we acting like he’s guaranteed CL quality?

[Bluedylan1]

He's just had a little period of poor form. It doesn't need to be a huge deal. I don't think it's particularly concerning or illustrative of some larger trend. He should've scored a couple more at least from the chances he's had in various games, and with his ability to strike a ball and finish, I'd imagine he'd feel that way more than anyone.

Assessing him overall as a player, I don't think what brap is saying is particularly outrageous or wrong. He's not a midfielder who's going to dictate a game. That's not the sort of player he is. He's not a traditional no. 10 either.

He's best as advanced left 8, connecting with the left winger and left back to create triangles, overloads, runs into the box and ultimately chances. When he's playing well he does that very well and is an asset to a mid-table team like us. He will benefit from Grealish improving in fitness and form, because they have a nice combination.

I also think he brings some important intangibles that the stats won't show. He's a good professional who never stops running, and his head doesn't go down if he misses a chance. He still tries to score/assist 5 minutes later if the chance presents itself. Plenty of more talented players than him don't have that quality.

I would back him to rediscover some form and contribute goals throughout the season. It's encouraging that we've still be getting positive results without him scoring/assisting.