Balogun (Deal off)

[UnsyisaRhino]

Swallow swallow swallow gulp gulp shlurp

Grim.

Switching from your post about our transfer process to this one hss given me whiplash.

We shouldn't believe anything from our team but we'll take their version events as gospel truth.

[AjaxAndy]

It *all* boils down to leaving "70% of our transfer activity" to the end of the window.

I genuinely do believe the clubs version of events here. Every last word of it.
But that doesn't mean they're not to blame. If Monaco were so desperate, then you could have done this 24 hours earlier even.

That's the key fact here... We left it so late that when things unravelled we were left high and dry.

Other teams also didn't complete deals they wanted to on deadline day, but they also didn't completely screw themselves by pinning everything on one signing that had to go through as they'd already sold their only backup.

I also think Monaco knew this and tried to use it to their advantage, but we created that situation ourselves, so can't really complain when it happens.

[brap2]

Grim.

Switching from your post about our transfer process to this one hss given me whiplash.

We shouldn't believe anything from our team but we'll take their version events as gospel truth.

Not sure if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me here sorry

[blueToffee]

I mean if both Everton and Monaco were in a position where they had to sell to do business and be in line with financial regulations it kinda sounds like what happens when one behind the times basket case of a club tries to deal with another similar basket case.

There was a post the other day on Reddit I think where Balogun posted on IG about going where he was wanted and basically walking away from the England setup because Southgate preferred Kane and others seemingly. That’s how he ended up representing the country he does now. Maybe all these things just came together and he didn’t like the notion that he wasn’t prioritized again. Who knows.

[brap2]

I think it almost doesn’t really matter what exactly happened?

We hit a hiccup, and probably all of the things said are true - he’s a twat, he’s got a bad knee, we saw an opportunity to haggle, Monaco aren’t great to deal with blah blah.

If you plan and execute well enough you can survive hiccups. You can haggle and leverage things to get your own way and you can gamble and you can even disrespect talent that you believe is worth £40m if you wish - but our plan and execution wasn’t good enough to survive whatever it is that happened.

[AjaxAndy]

Think we dodged a bullet here tbh (but doesn't excuse the farcical end of the window).

Chose to play for USA as he got the hump that managers kept picking Kane up front for England.

Got upset that our medical team found an issue in his medical and walked away knowing full well Monaca needed the sale and we needed the extra body.

Seems very flighty and quick to throw his toys out of the pram. Not what you want in your dressing room.

This goes back to @brap2 post about just randomly approaching targets without any real idea of how they'll fit. This one seemed probably driven by the board wanting an American poster boy signing, and saw an opportunity for increasing reach across the pond without any thought of how their personality would fit in to a tight knit group.

Reckon he'd have been more trouble than he'd have been worth. Imagine if he had a poor run and Barry replaced him in the starting lineup, and stayed there as he performed well? Sounds like he'd have been disruptive and problematic behind the scenes.

[TheRam]

How is a player expected to feel when he’s sitting there, in our training ground and sees us actively searching for his replacement.

We hardly gave a good impression of ourselves.

Good for him for being decisive and making his own decision not to join this mess.

He’s the one who’s dodged the bullet. We’re the ones with one striker in our entire squad.

[NickNack]

I think there’s an element of truth in both the above scenarios. I’m not convinced he wanted to come here in the first place and we gave him the perfect excuse to walk away.

[Brownie]

Been left out of Monaco’s European squad

[blueToffee]

Been left out of Monaco’s European squad

Either they’re trying to nudge him out to go to Turkey/Saudi to get a fee (maybe punishment for walking away) or they’re purposely not making him cup tied so in January he could become an interesting option for some bigger teams who might need a striker at that point.

[AllyBlue14]

Or he's more injured than they thought he was and he might not be available to play in the short-medium term.

[AjaxAndy]

How is a player expected to feel when he’s sitting there, in our training ground and sees us actively searching for his replacement.

We hardly gave a good impression of ourselves.

Good for him for being decisive and making his own decision not to join this mess.

He’s the one who’s dodged the bullet. We’re the ones with one striker in our entire squad.

Dunno, I think most players would accept that a medical findings might delay or cancel a transfer.

This is the same guy who chose a country he has no affiliation to other than being born there because he got the hump England managers chose 70 goal a season Harry Kane over him. He seems like a right tool.

Got bad egg vibes written all over him.

[Gary1878]

I couldnt care less about missing out on Balogun - i am angry about how it was all left to the last minute and how we let Beto leave. It’s just terrible squad management.

Don’t let Beto leave if you dont have a replacement in.

Medicals fail, transfer deals collapse, it’s all part and parcel of football. It was probably everyone’s fault in one way or another. The guy probably wasnt 100% fit and was carrying an injury. Monaco lied about his lack of training to get the best deal they could as they needed the money, and we wanted to renegotiate the deal given that he might be unavailable for some time. We renegotiated at the last minute because it puts time pressure on things.

It’s just business. If the lad was upset and didn’t want to sign after a few hours of sitting around, how is he going to cope with 50,000 angry scousers after having a crap game and missing 2 sitters? Ultimately, he was the one that decided not to sign and scuppered the deal. Dont feel sorry for him because he got a bit upset over his personal feelings being hurt. It was a deal worth £40m being discussed afterall.

[brap2]

Who’s knows what happened with the medical.

Both sides will put a story out to save face.

What I can be pretty sure of it’s the people involved completely neglected in making the player feel wanted and comfortable in committing his future to this club and he was put off with how we conducted the whole thing.

Don’t know how anyone can blame him and keep a straight face.

Probably saw Grealish and help yourself Hammond toasting with quad vods

[Indiantoffee75]

This recruitment team haven't got an ounce of logic/common sense in them. Clueless bunch of idiots.

The Italian deadline was 7pm. Why did they not get the Balogun deal done in advance of that 7pm deadline prior to releasing Beto. If Balogun falls through, so does Beto.

Logic defies people at the club.