Balogun (Deal off)

[Lazarou II]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ra-chelsea

Monaco's side of the story.

[CorkyOnTour]

What Thiago is saying has massive holes in it.

[bigmanbob]

What Thiago is saying has massive holes in it.

I bet the mighty Chelsea are fuming

[AjaxAndy]

So basically...

Monaco didn't send Balogun over at the expected time and instead waited several hours to do so.

They weren't honest about his lack of training over pre-season.

We found an issue with his medical and as is standard with these things consulted other doctors regarding it.

We requested further information on his pre-season data which they delayed until the last minute.

The deal was renegotiated and deal sheets submitted only for the player to take the hump at our medical findings and walk away.

From the above I'm basically seeing from.our side that we found an issue, we asked for a second opinion by another doctor, they must have agreed there was an issue but in the end we deemed the transfer as still being viable if the fee was renegotiated. That happened, and deal sheets were signed and submitted in time.

From the player's side he was pissed off that we found an issue and seemed for some reason to think he knew better, and walked away. This is despite our medical team finding an issue and also seeking a second opinion. We also still decided to press ahead with the transfer, so ultimately the issue seems to be he disputes our medical findings. This seems odd as we will have proof of whatever issue was flagged, so can only presume he felt the problem wasn't as much of an issue as we did. Player thinking he understands medical scans better than doctors is a bit bizarre imo.

On Monaco's side they seem to have done everything to hide his lack of preseason training, they delayed sending him over for his medical, they delayed sending over his pre-season data, and must have agreed there was an issue with his medical as they renegotiated the deal at our request. It suggests they acted in bad faith and basically tried to ensure we had no time to pivot and do the transfer regardless.

This doesn't mean we're blameless, I'm sure we've fucked up because the sheer incompetence of those in charge is very much apparent. However I do think there's more to this story than just Everton being shit, and think Monaco have acted in a potentially shady way to try hide certain things about the player as they were desperate to sell him.

[CorkyOnTour]

So basically...

Monaco didn't send Balogun over at the expected time and instead waited several hours to do so.

They weren't honest about his lack of training over pre-season.

We found an issue with his medical and as is standard with these things consulted other doctors regarding it.

We requested further information on his pre-season data which they delayed until the last minute.

The deal was renegotiated and deal sheets submitted only for the player to take the hump at our medical findings and walk away.

From the above I'm basically seeing from.our side that we found an issue, we asked for a second opinion by another doctor, they must have agreed there was an issue but in the end we deemed the transfer as still being viable if the fee was renegotiated. That happened, and deal sheets were signed and submitted in time.

From the player's side he was pissed off that we found an issue and seemed for some reason to think he knew better, and walked away. This is despite our medical team finding an issue and also seeking a second opinion. We also still decided to press ahead with the transfer, so ultimately the issue seems to be he disputes our medical findings. This seems odd as we will have proof of whatever issue was flagged, so can only presume he felt the problem wasn't as much of an issue as we did. Player thinking he understands medical scans better than doctors is a bit bizarre imo.

On Monaco's side they seem to have done everything to hide his lack of preseason training, they delayed sending him over for his medical, they delayed sending over his pre-season data, and must have agreed there was an issue with his medical as they renegotiated the deal at our request. It suggests they acted in bad faith and basically tried to ensure we had no time to pivot and do the transfer regardless.

This doesn't mean we're blameless, I'm sure we've fucked up because the sheer incompetence of those in charge is very much apparent. However I do think there's more to this story than just Everton being shit, and think Monaco have acted in a potentially shady way to try hide certain things about the player as they were desperate to sell him.

I agree.

And Mendes is his agent…

[superpull]

Yeah, I think the only thing we may have done differently here is had somebody important (Moyes himself preferably) have a meeting with him to "bring him in". Lie and say the rumours about signing other players were to let Monaco know we won't be bullied. That we still want him and he's our number 1 target/the best big boy ever. Because that nasty Monaco haven't treated his owie properly we're doing some boring number work with them, but it'll all be ok.

But, we probably did that anyway.
Think it's all moved into the "fuck him" category for me

[brap2]

Swallow swallow swallow gulp gulp shlurp

[superpull]

Swallow swallow swallow gulp gulp shlurp

I don't know. We're a shit-show, but not absolutely everything is deffo the fault of the club.
Allowing ourselves to be led along until the last day by all and sundry so this can happen? Yeah, that's deffo on us.

[CorkyOnTour]

Swallow swallow swallow gulp gulp shlurp

What are you swallowing?

[Shogun]

I reckon the club who nearly sold Armstrong to Forest for £40m, almost brought back Richarlison for £35m and ended up with their big RB signing after 2 years of searching as a £5m Maitland-Niles are probably the ones who mostly fucked up this Balogun situation.

[CorkyOnTour]

I reckon the club who nearly sold Armstrong to Forest for £40m, almost brought back Richarlison for £35m and ended up with their big RB signing after 2 years of searching as a £5m Maitland-Niles are probably the ones who mostly fucked up this Balogun situation.

Are you saying this information is entirely false?

[TheRam]

I think the fact we had him at our training ground, lowering his worth to us whilst he probably hears about us scrambling around for other strikers is what killed the deal.

Oh he didn’t train as much as we thought? Find that out beforehand.

[Raptor]

I think the fact we had him at our training ground, lowering his worth to us whilst he probably hears about us scrambling around for other strikers is what killed the deal.

Oh he didn’t train as much as we thought? Find that out beforehand.

Yep, they looked at his GPS data and found out he wasn't doing much. Surely you'd look at this before bidding 40m, schoolboy stuff

[superpull]

It *all* boils down to leaving "70% of our transfer activity" to the end of the window.

I genuinely do believe the clubs version of events here. Every last word of it.
But that doesn't mean they're not to blame. If Monaco were so desperate, then you could have done this 24 hours earlier even.

[CorkyOnTour]

I think the fact we had him at our training ground, lowering his worth to us whilst he probably hears about us scrambling around for other strikers is what killed the deal.

Oh he didn’t train as much as we thought? Find that out beforehand.

That information wasnt forthcoming until later as per the reports yesterday.