Balogun (Deal off)

[sam of the south]

Why dont you blame the club? It might not have been their decision to end the deal, but they let us get to 1 hour before the window shuts with one striker in the squad.

The medical should be done before we sell our other striker.

Yeah, getting the findings of the medical after Beto was sold is just mindblowing.

Ludicrous, ludicrous club.

Forever destined to be a fusty old boys club, clinging to outdated tradition and faded former glories.

[Kerryblueboy]

Why don’t the club come out so and say the deal was off because of his medical all the talk today is the player rejected us at the last minute we had a deal sheet gone in the deal was agreed with his club we fucked him around all day and he got sick of it

[Raptor]

Why don’t the club come out so and say the deal was off because of his medical all the talk today is the player rejected us at the last minute we had a deal sheet gone in the deal was agreed with his club we fucked him around all day and he got sick of it

He walked, the medical issue was resolved in a restructuring of payments

[Big Nevs Vaz]

I think people are missing my point here.

We obviously found something in his medical that meant spending £40m on him wasn't a good idea. That can happen and I don't believe for one moment we should just ignore medicals and buy anyway. They're there for a reason.

I also think us asking about Zirkzee and Abraham when the deal was being renegotiated and possibly falling through wasn't any issue either, it's what you do if you think a deal is maybe not going to complete.

I think the argument around letting Beto leave before Balogun was through the door is a perfectly fine one though, and this came about because of how we were scrambling at the last minute and didn't legislate for such things, which is proper amateur hour and unforgivable.

But I don't blame the club one bit for not just throwing £40m at a player with a failed medical.

It was posted last week by someone much wiser than me that the Ndiaye sale needed to be a quick one because everything hung on it from PSR and hence the Armstrong debacle followed when we didn't have offers.
City knew that we wanted Grealish and were prepared to sit it out and let us stew it seams... How we didn't foresee all this is the problem and letting your second striker go back to Italy where the window closed 4 hours before ours didn't exactly help either. The post mortem makes for very grim reading.

[NickNack]

I think people are missing my point here.

We obviously found something in his medical that meant spending £40m on him wasn't a good idea. That can happen and I don't believe for one moment we should just ignore medicals and buy anyway. They're there for a reason.

I also think us asking about Zirkzee and Abraham when the deal was being renegotiated and possibly falling through wasn't any issue either, it's what you do if you think a deal is maybe not going to complete.

I think the argument around letting Beto leave before Balogun was through the door is a perfectly fine one though, and this came about because of how we were scrambling at the last minute and didn't legislate for such things, which is proper amateur hour and unforgivable.

But I don't blame the club one bit for not just throwing £40m at a player with a failed medical.

I still think if it was any kind of medical issue, then cancel it altogether. Why renegotiate at all?

And yes letting Beto go before knowing the results of his replacements medical is gross negligence, end of.

[Bluedylan1]

Why don’t the club come out so and say the deal was off because of his medical all the talk today is the player rejected us at the last minute we had a deal sheet gone in the deal was agreed with his club we fucked him around all day and he got sick of it

I think there's probably legal/ethical issues around revealing information related to a player's medical situation in public.

[AjaxAndy]

It was posted last week by someone much wiser than me that the Ndiaye sale needed to be a quick one because everything hung on it from PSR and hence the Armstrong debacle followed when we didn't have offers.
City knew that we wanted Grealish and were prepared to sit it out and let us stew it seams... How we didn't foresee all this is the problem and letting your second striker go back to Italy where the window closed 4 hours before ours didn't exactly help either. The post mortem makes for very grim reading.

Yeah that was probably me, I've been saying it since the Armstrong bid that we must have been about to fall foul of SCR if we didn't sell someone.

We gambled on a big Ndaiye fee, it never came, and the club ended up scrambling around in desperation and ultimately failed horribly.

[TheRam]

I think people are missing my point here.

We obviously found something in his medical that meant spending £40m on him wasn't a good idea. That can happen and I don't believe for one moment we should just ignore medicals and buy anyway. They're there for a reason.

I also think us asking about Zirkzee and Abraham when the deal was being renegotiated and possibly falling through wasn't any issue either, it's what you do if you think a deal is maybe not going to complete.

I think the argument around letting Beto leave before Balogun was through the door is a perfectly fine one though, and this came about because of how we were scrambling at the last minute and didn't legislate for such things, which is proper amateur hour and unforgivable.

But I don't blame the club one bit for not just throwing £40m at a player with a failed medical.

That’s if you believe everything that comes from the club like you do.

Did something flag up in his medical? Yeah, probably.

Was it substantial enough to try to renegotiate the deal at the last hour? Or did they see an opportunity to try to save a few million as they always do, completely misjudging the situation?

The lad was in the training ground. He’s been sitting there watching us reduce his worth to us, put out to the world that he isn’t fit, and then scramble around looking to sign other strikers.

If we hadn’t just signed Jack Grealish coming off the back of a six month lay off, and Norgaard who was injured when we signed him, I’d be a little bit willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

They’re obviously willing to let certain things slide when it comes to a players fitness, and they were still willing to sign Balogun on decent money so whatever has flagged obviously wasn’t that bad.

They saw an opportunity to save a few million and completely fucked it up.

[Bumble]

The bigger issue is what were we doing at Finch Farm with the player for him to suddenly decide this isn't the club for him?

Did we have the CEO or manager walking him around the facilities, telling him our plans, looking at the history of past players and trophies, making him feel as if he was joining an establishment of a club etc....

Or was he hanging around the canteen with his agent and a coffee watching on the TV while we throw in bids for bang average strikers.

He would have had to have got cold feet about something that felt massively off for him to walk out at that late stage.

[Cereal Killer]

The bigger issue is what were we doing at Finch Farm with the player for him to suddenly decide this isn't the club for him?

Did we have the CEO or manager walking him around the facilities, telling him our plans, looking at the history of past players and trophies, making him feel as if he was joining an establishment of a club etc....

Or was he hanging around the canteen with his agent and a coffee watching on the TV while we throw in bids for bang average strikers.

He would have had to have got cold feet about something that felt massively off for him to walk out at that late stage.

Walked into the media room where someone was desperately scrubbing out “Richarlison” and started felt tipping Balogun on stuff

[MayorFarnham]

Shambles

He turned us down too. Said he'd rather fight for his place in the Brazilian 2nd division.

[Cozzie]

That’s if you believe everything that comes from the club like you do.

Did something flag up in his medical? Yeah, probably.

Was it substantial enough to try to renegotiate the deal at the last hour? Or did they see an opportunity to try to save a few million as they always do, completely misjudging the situation?

The lad was in the training ground. He’s been sitting there watching us reduce his worth to us, put out to the world that he isn’t fit, and then scramble around looking to sign other strikers.

If we hadn’t just signed Jack Grealish coming off the back of a six month lay off, and Norgaard who was injured when we signed him, I’d be a little bit willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

They’re obviously willing to let certain things slide when it comes to a players fitness, and they were still willing to sign Balogun on decent money so whatever has flagged obviously wasn’t that bad.

They saw an opportunity to save a few million and completely fucked it up.

It's absolutely this all over.

It's why AMN was signed. They couldn't knock getting RB in for just 4M.

He had absolutely every right to swerve us, good on him as well, I would have done.

The examples that have been given are there.

Noorgard still signed despite being heavily crocked at the time.

We signed Broja a few years back knowing he wasn't ready until October.

You're basically right, the stupid bastards saw it as an excuse or opportunity to simply save a few quid.

Absolute shambles.

[AjaxAndy]

That’s if you believe everything that comes from the club like you do.

Did something flag up in his medical? Yeah, probably.

Was it substantial enough to try to renegotiate the deal at the last hour? Or did they see an opportunity to try to save a few million as they always do, completely misjudging the situation?

The lad was in the training ground. He’s been sitting there watching us reduce his worth to us, put out to the world that he isn’t fit, and then scramble around looking to sign other strikers.

If we hadn’t just signed Jack Grealish coming off the back of a six month lay off, and Norgaard who was injured when we signed him, I’d be a little bit willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

They’re obviously willing to let certain things slide when it comes to a players fitness, and they were still willing to sign Balogun on decent money so whatever has flagged obviously wasn’t that bad.

They saw an opportunity to save a few million and completely fucked it up.

No one knows either way... I get what you're saying and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest tbh, but also I'm not really going to jump to conclusions and conspiracy theories just because I'm angry about the deal falling through.

Hopefully we get more information on the medical and why we decided to go back to the negotiating table. If indeed there was an issue that would impact long term fitness and sell on value then I have zero issue with renegotiating a deal to reflect that.

If he just wasn't match fit and we decided to chance our arm at a lower fee then whoever made that decision needs to be hounded out of the club with the rest of those responsible for the mess this window ended up being.

As others have mentioned too, we need to find out why Balogun pulled the plug himself, if indeed that's true... I'd image someone like Paddy Boyland will find out some information and give it to us over the next few days. That will hopefully give us more to work on.

[Audrey Horne]

It's pretty obvious why he walked away.

[AllyBlue14]

To have him there, in the building, keen on the move, with everything lined up between the clubs even after being renegotiated... that conversation must have been excruciating.