StirlingBlue wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2026 5:55 pm
He’s not slow, he’s got size, good technique and can strike a decent shot with either foot. I can see the potential that was there but his work ethic is non existent and he’s so poor at the mental side of the game - I’ll be amazed if he’s still here next season and we’ll be Lucy to get half our money back on him
Think hes incredibly raw. He plays like hes years and years younger than he is. He has got size but is gets bullied a lot. His runs are off, he doesnt get his body in the right position to compete physically with defenders. He does appear to have some good finishes in him. Hes much older than he plays and like you say he appears to be incredibly week mentally.
I wouldn't be shocked if none of him dibling or Aznou arent here next season. Maybe loans at first but I think wed be happy to cut our losses on all 3 and id imagine all 3 would be happy to be elsewhere
He shouldn't have been anywhere near the side on Saturday. Play Ndiaye up top, get bodies around him who will graft and run. You can't be playing McNeil and Barry in the same side away from home and hope to inject anything into the attack.
Bumble wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2026 9:10 am
He shouldn't have been anywhere near the side on Saturday. Play Ndiaye up top, get bodies around him who will graft and run. You can't be playing McNeil and Barry in the same side away from home and hope to inject anything into the attack.
Ndaiye would be equally as bad up there. We're all bemoaning Barry's lack of ability to fight with big CBs but that's not Ndaiye's game either. He'd win about as many duels in that position as Barry did.
What people want is to see someone play up there that would also involve Moyes changing how we play, and he's just not the man to do that.
Simply playing someone else there wouldn't yield a different result, it'd take a whole identity change, and that's something a pragmatic manager like Moyes isn't going to do.
Early season I was happy to give Barry the benefit of the doubt as he was young in a strange country/ language and league thought he looked as though he had the right attributes…now since the arsenal game/mates etc….I reckon he’s not interested…wants out and it shows….i wouldn’t put him anywhere near the team unless and until his attitude completely changes by the time the transfer window nears an end…by that time he’ll have a had pre-season and time to change his mindset and attitude…if not get rid before we are stuck with him and him with us….
I'm not even sure you can necessarily put it down to disinterest or a falling out, although the latter does seem kinda likely when paired with the derby sub appearance.
The problem in evaluating him is he has had a similar languid style to games for most of his time here. So he may have been trying his hardest last game and it might just have been his level. There wasn't much difference between last game and some of his other games earlier in the season for me, I just think it's being viewed through a difference lens now post the Arsenal fallout and he's not getting the same leeway.
The kindest thing I could say about his last game was service wasn't really that great either. He had one big chance, but he's not as yet a striker who will always be able to bury one chance in a game.
The easiest thing for him to have done though was to celebrate and look like part of the team when KDH scored. Even that could've covered some of the cracks a bit and made him seem invested and enthusiastic. Fans always just want a bit of buy in.
AjaxAndy wrote:
Ndaiye would be equally as bad up there. We're all bemoaning Barry's lack of ability to fight with big CBs but that's not Ndaiye's game either. He'd win about as many duels in that position as Barry did.
What people want is to see someone play up there that would also involve Moyes changing how we play, and he's just not the man to do that.
Simply playing someone else there wouldn't yield a different result, it'd take a whole identity change, and that's something a pragmatic manager like Moyes isn't going to do.
I see what you’re getting at with regards to Moyes style but I do think having Ndiaye up there would be a noticeable difference purely because he can actually control the ball.
There’s plenty of times in our games where either Beto or Barry receive the ball under no pressure and lose it due to terrible control, we wouldn’t have that happen with Ndiaye at least
blueToffee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 5:59 pm
I'm not even sure you can necessarily put it down to disinterest or a falling out, although the latter does seem kinda likely when paired with the derby sub appearance.
The problem in evaluating him is he has had a similar languid style to games for most of his time here. So he may have been trying his hardest last game and it might just have been his level. There wasn't much difference between last game and some of his other games earlier in the season for me, I just think it's being viewed through a difference lens now post the Arsenal fallout and he's not getting the same leeway.
The kindest thing I could say about his last game was service wasn't really that great either. He had one big chance, but he's not as yet a striker who will always be able to bury one chance in a game.
The easiest thing for him to have done though was to celebrate and look like part of the team when KDH scored. Even that could've covered some of the cracks a bit and made him seem invested and enthusiastic. Fans always just want a bit of buy in.
Thats exactly it. Hes gone from a very favourable positive lens to a slightly negative 1. I mean its very negative but if he actually played well we could cause a fist fight in the away end every weel and we wouldnt really care. So we are only negative because hes been poor
He ain't gonna be here next season. No way moyes decides to keep him and lose beto.
Time to accept something needs to be done. The fanbase has a truly toxic element driven by this ‘I’m the bigger more miserable diehard blue ever look how orrible I am’ mentality and it needs to go.
What can you really do against people spouting nonsense on social media?
I don't know why any footballer would be even have a profile though, unless you have incredible mental fortitude (they may do to make it to the level of a PL player) it's just not worth it surely.
blueToffee wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:52 pm
What can you really do against people spouting nonsense on social media?
I don't know why any footballer would be even have a profile though, unless you have incredible mental fortitude (they may do to make it to the level of a PL player) it's just not worth it surely.
I really really don’t know.
Maybe the club calling out directly? Maybe media figures making a point of them, maybe fan groups, sites, social media types, I don’t know but there’s a problem and I don’t think accept it and ignore it is right.
Part of it is not just modern life / social media, part of it is the vile attitude specific (but not exclusive) to our fans
brap2 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:22 pm
Time to accept something needs to be done. The fanbase has a truly toxic element driven by this ‘I’m the bigger more miserable diehard blue ever look how orrible I am’ mentality and it needs to go.
I'm not condoning this at all, I can't stand it, but he has only fuelled the fire himself. All he has to do is put himself about a bit and give it a good go. When he first arrived he looked fairly hungry and I could see a player there, even if he wasn't scoring he joined up play and looked a much better footballer than Beto. Instead of kicking on and using the competition with Beto as fuel, he's regressed and looks disinterested. We all know that if there's one thing we won't accept as a fanbase it's a lack of effort. Even Lukaku got plenty of stick, but for the most part it was tolerated because he was so good in front of goal and would win games. Niasse, dreadful player, but he won people over with his spirit, the same thing Beto has done. So all said and done, whilst I don't support bashing our own players, he's brought a lot of this on himself. He has a choice to make, suck it up, crack on and give it all he's got, or slink off back to a slower less competitive league...a shame for a young talent to waste an opportunity they've probably dreamt about, but not everyone has the mentality for it.
Shogun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2026 8:34 am
Meh, you reap what you sow. None of that crosses a line for me. Zero apology or effort since the Arsenal match, so you can't have it all.
He also put his caption as Why? and last photo is wearing a top saying Why are people so emotional?
Thats about Everton fans isnt it. He is so immature its crazy, he is like a spoilt teenager.
I dont want him getting shit and abuse but like people have said, just try hard and dont put subliminal messages online like a teenage boy.
It's fairly low grade stuff in those comments and if he's stupid enough to reply to them then he's only fueling the fire. Do your talking on the pitch.
