777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 2:16 pm
Hes done amazing but we did sign a load of players who cant get in our team. That disconnect between manager snd recruitment team (or even poor recruitment from the lot of them) cant continue going forward. If we end up with another selection of players the manager doesn't want to use then something would have to change
Getting difficult to find players who don’t come with massive egos, arrogance and lack of humility
Look at Chelsea and Spurs, squads of 90% wools who aren’t arsed and expect an easy life
Maybe Moyes still wants players who have a bit about them
Gordon coming out saying Sunderland aren’t as good as Newcastle
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 2:16 pm
Hes done amazing but we did sign a load of players who cant get in our team. That disconnect between manager snd recruitment team (or even poor recruitment from the lot of them) cant continue going forward. If we end up with another selection of players the manager doesn't want to use then something would have to change
Hopefully it's less about not being able to get in at all, and more about them not getting in yet.
I think some won't make it, but I think others will start to feature more next season, especially if we have another competition to factor in. I worry about Barry because mentally he seems a bit fragile and parts of the fanbase just haven't taken to him (and probably won't now after arsenal). Dibling is another, as I think he lacks the intensity that Moyes seems to value over almost anything else.
I'm pretty sure Kudus only started about half the games he played the season he signed for Westham as he probably didn't think he could trust him to do the hard work, moyes likes a workhorse. Players like Cahill and Neville probably played every minute they were available after they signed.
777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 2:16 pm
Hes done amazing but we did sign a load of players who cant get in our team. That disconnect between manager snd recruitment team (or even poor recruitment from the lot of them) cant continue going forward. If we end up with another selection of players the manager doesn't want to use then something would have to change
Matt1878 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:06 pm
DM's first 18 momths are following a very similar pattern to his 2001/02 and 2002/03 seasons. Finished 7th with 59 points in 2003.
Lets hope we dont follow suit with our 2003/04 season performance!
I've been saying this to whoever listens to me.
Some more similarities:
I went to Moyes first game for Everton.
I went to Moyes first game back.
My first season as a season ticket holder was 02/03.
My first season as a season ticket holder since 03/04 is this season.
Seems a bit premature to me - we've been great since he's taken over in the role of the little club underachieving but that can't be the plan forever. I'd have waited to see how he does next season with a more rounded squad (fullbacks please!) and higher expectations as that's been his ceiling in the past.
Seems a bit premature to me - we've been great since he's taken over in the role of the little club underachieving but that can't be the plan forever. I'd have waited to see how he does next season with a more rounded squad (fullbacks please!) and higher expectations as that's been his ceiling in the past.
“Any new contract for Moyes is likely to be accompanied by giving the manager a greater say over recruitment…. there is a recognition at Everton that Moyes is at his best working with more experienced players”
No more hipster potential types that we can make money on down the line, just the standard Prem proven, last contract types which will stick us at a self-imposed ceiling
Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 1:15 pm
“Any new contract for Moyes is likely to be accompanied by giving the manager a greater say over recruitment…. there is a recognition at Everton that Moyes is at his best working with more experienced players”
No more hipster potential types that we can make money on down the line, just the standard Prem proven, last contract types which will stick us at a self-imposed ceiling
Fuck knows why we've spent money on the likes of Dibling, Rohl and George if this is the case.
Although I do think the idea that he's prem proven last contract types is a bit harsh on him - he's found plenty of gems over the years from other leagues and has brought through youngsters just not quite as quick as we'd all like
Can’t understand the negativity ? “a bit premature” ?he’s in the last year of his contract when negotiations begin,you can’t wait until he and we are in the dark for half the season, am sure West Ham now regret not giving him a new contract.
I remember all the shouts on here of “get Potter” and “get Howe” how did tgat work out.
The bits picked out by others above are purely speculative, backed up by no quotes and there's no ''insiders'' referred to by Matt Hughes (who is formerly Daily Mail and shouldn't be employed by the Guardian, but that's another story for another day). Any sort of basic media literacy tells you that.
When he says ''there is a recognition at Everton that Moyes is at his best working with more experienced players, such as Jack Grealish and Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall who both signed last summer, rather than youngsters like Tyler Dibling, who has made just four Premier League starts since he joined from Southampton''
That's entirely speculative. Saying ''there is a recognition'' is journalistic spin for saying ''I haven't got any sources or quotes for this, so I'm going to couch my own opinion or the generally accepted opinion in the most passive language possible''. ''There is a recognition'' can't be challenged or questioned, because it's so intentionally vague. Any fan could've written that.
The exact same applies to ''any new contract for Moyes is likely to be accompanied by giving the manager a greater say over recruitment, as was the case during his first spell in charge between 2002 and 2013''
According to who, sorry? ''Is likely''? Have you got sources or insiders at the club there, or are you making a speculative logical jump? Are you just saying that a manager given a renewed contract is likely to have more wiggle room at the club than previously? Well of course. It would be weird if that wasn't the case. If you had information that he will be given more control of transfers there, and you were confident in the sources, you would say ''Moyes will be given a greater say over recruitment'' with no room for ambiguity.
If the article was written by Andy Hunter or Paddy Boyland, I'd give those things some credence because they clearly do have sources at the club who are willing to disclose things anonymously, but Matt Hughes is a London based journalist with no connection to Everton. I absolutely believe that he'll be offered a new contract, but the other stuff is just filler and speculation to pad out the article so that it reaches the necessary word count for his editor.
Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 1:15 pm
“Any new contract for Moyes is likely to be accompanied by giving the manager a greater say over recruitment…. there is a recognition at Everton that Moyes is at his best working with more experienced players”
No more hipster potential types that we can make money on down the line, just the standard Prem proven, last contract types which will stick us at a self-imposed ceiling
Given we've bought Rohl, Dibling and Barry, plus we already had Branthwaite, Tim and JOB it's actually perfectly fine to go after some immediate impact players.
We shouldn't only be buying proven players nor should we only buy youngsters. It's about balancing the future with the now.
If we bought a couple of 25 year old full backs who would slot in immediately, someone like Bowen and an Ivan Toney type striker, continued to blood Rohl and Tim, give Dibling more minutes then we'd be a team that had a lovely mix of experience and youth.
