Manager Merry-Go-Round

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English teams winning the Europa League is going to be quite common in the years to come.
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TheRam wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 8:41 am Aren’t the injuries his fault though?

Poor training methods coupled with an ultra high intense way of playing.

When you get so many injuries you have to ask questions of the manager.
Not in itself, no. It's been suggested that the constant manager churn itself and the change in direction is a significant contributing factor as players never get used to one set of methods.

When we had one of the worst injury runs in recent times, the second highest incidence of injury in the league in 21/22 (second only to Leeds), this was evidenced as Benitez had us playing one style with new medical staff (after many years under Donachie), new fitness staff, and different ways of working, then for Lampard to come in with almost polar opposite style and way of training and playing. Carlo's style before Benitez was very different again. The contrasts in load management, ways of training etc. Then there was the limited ability to change the squad to adapt.

It's apparently as much about what was happening before the change as what happened after it,and what your squad consists of. Chalk and cheese.

Obviously Postecoglou's style requires a highly physically athletic player type, but you also can't overhaul a squad in just a couple of transfer windows to accommodate it. And some owners simply won't allow the time or budget to do so, even if the latter is well within their means.

A players' level of adaptability to a new style is also important: regarding Celtic under Ange, "...as the players adapted to the demands of the system, the game fluctuation changed rather than that constant 'basketball' up and down the pitch, the team was able to control one half of the pitch more. So that stopped the centre-backs having to run in behind as often." Scotland is different to England obviously, but there'd still be a differential between Spurs and the smaller teams, and there'd still be capacity to control a match, or large parts of it, with adaptable players, and the longer the new style is played.

"It's pretty common for players to struggle with injury when adjusting to managerial changes (it's not just Postecoglou). According to Newcastle United's former head of sports science Callum Walsh, "there is some research that shows clubs who change managers see a slight increase in injury." Speaking to The Athletic, he explained: "as a player, your physiology is adapted to the way you train and play, so if for instance you play for an Antonio Conte team and it's slightly more structured and you don't look to press so heavily all around the pitch, you might find you do less high-speed running. Then, suddenly, you're playing in a different system with different physiological demands."

"Boards need to understand that this sort of thing can take a while — look at Liverpool with Klopp," says Walsh. "You have to sign players aligned with what you need. And you'll have some, and sign some, who just won't be durable enough."

For this reason, Levy has faced valid criticism for his lack of support of Postecoglou's first team, his failure ensure the squad had the depth required to deal with regular injuries.

The claim that Postecoglou’s training methods themselves are poor requires fleshing out. Sounds to me that this doesn't have much evidence to support that specifically, beyond a few reports of some unnamed players not liking the intensity, which is to be expected.
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Cleverly to Plymouth
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Frank gone

https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/news/art ... ier-league

Thomas Frank has left Brentford to take up the role of head coach at Tottenham Hotspur.
In his seven years as head coach with the Bees, Frank guided the club back into the top flight of English football, before stabilising the west Londoners in the Premier League, providing some fantastic performances and memorable victories in that time.
Assistant first-team coach Justin Cochrane, head of athletic performance Chris Haslam and first-team analyst Joe Newton are also joining Frank at Spurs.

Brentford director of football Phil Giles said: “It has been a pleasure working alongside Thomas.

"From the moment he replaced Dean Smith, he understood what we were trying to build and his wisdom, coaching ability and emotional intelligence have helped transform the club.

“There have been so many special moments with Thomas and nobody will ever forget the day at Wembley for the play-off final or that emotional first Premier League game against Arsenal.

“But it’s not just what you see on the pitch. He forged a special connection with our fans, helped develop and improve players, and was instrumental in implementing the culture that has seen Brentford go from strength to strength.

“However, just as when a player leaves, it provides an opportunity for someone else to come in and make their own impact.

“We will never forget Thomas, but now it is time to thank him and take the next steps in our journey with a new leader who we believe can be just as successful and influential.”

Frank first joined Brentford in December 2016 as assistant head coach. He replaced Dean Smith as head coach in 2018, before guiding the Bees to promotion from the Sky Bet Championship in 2021.

Only the second man to lead the club in the top tier, Frank has the record for the most wins in his first 200 games in charge (90).

He is also in third place for total wins as manager in club history (132) - only Malky MacDonald (163) and Harry Curtis (306) have surpassed that mark.

Everyone connected with Brentford would like to thank Thomas for the incredible impact he has had on the club’s history.

The club will be making no further comment until a successor has been appointed.
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Can see Brentford struggling.

In my mind I always saw Frank as the successor to Dyche, he would have been my pick anyway.

Might have happened had Dyche not bombed.

Think he will do well at spurs. A good fit that.
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Don't think Spurs fans will take to him at all tbh, be like Nuno all over again.
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Yeah, not for me.

I think he will struggle massively. Brentford is probably the easiest job in the league. You have the structure behind you to succeed.

He won’t have that at spurs.

Don’t even know what’s a good job for a spurs manager these days.

If he finishes 7th I think that’s a decent job but feel like he’d be under pressure.
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TheRam wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:46 pm Yeah, not for me.

I think he will struggle massively. Brentford is probably the easiest job in the league. You have the structure behind you to succeed.

He won’t have that at spurs.

Don’t even know what’s a good job for a spurs manager these days.

If he finishes 7th I think that’s a decent job but feel like he’d be under pressure.
Think they'll be happy with a 7th and an okay performance in Europe. The season after though they'd be wanting top 4 which is probably unrealistic

Think spurs is a great job at the moment. Expectations have been lowered and still have champions league and probably plenty to spend
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Feels a bit of a bland, safe appointment but I might be doing Frank a disservice. Levy's probably got a bit spooked after taking a manager who's never managed at PL level, okay he got them CL football but it was via the backdoor and the league form was woeful so you can see the logic in it. He's probably seen as a safe pair of hands rather than take a risk on some young manager from overseas.
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Wilder getting sacked. Seems a bit harsh given the points they scored would normall have been enough to come up. Can't say I'm a fan of him though so hard to feel sorry for him.

https://www.skysports.com/share/13382586
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To be replaced by Ruben Selles, who was sacked after saving Hull from relegation?
Meanwhile ‘Boro to hire Rob Edwards?
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Brentford close to appointing set piece coach Keith Andrews as the next manager…

Seems an odd choice

Can see them struggling big time next season
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@biziclop The return of Keith Andrews
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Shogun wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 2:55 pm @biziclop The return of Keith Andrews
I don't even remember how he made me so irrationally angry with him.
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biziclop wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:01 pm I don't even remember how he made me so irrationally angry with him.
I don't remember either, I think it might have been something to do with him being the most distinctly average footballer ever?
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