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Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 8:24 pm
by superpull
777Kidnappings wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2026 11:31 am Which 2 are the slow 1s? Dibling grealish Ndiaye mcneii? Why would we sign more slow 1s before we address the chronic lack of pace. We cant just keep adding players that dont directly address our problems because hopefully we'll sign some that do
Well, we're talking about Grealish, so he's one and Ndiaye is the other.
McNeil won't be here so there's only a kid that obviously needs time to develop.

As you included the two I was talking about then, in your scenario, the only player coming in would be a pacy one

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 8:31 pm
by 777Kidnappings
superpull wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2026 8:24 pm Well, we're talking about Grealish, so he's one and Ndiaye is the other.
McNeil won't be here so there's only a kid that obviously needs time to develop.

As you included the two I was talking about then, in your scenario, the only player coming in would be a pacy one
Why would we commit to our biggest wages for a player that doesnt directly solve our problem. We are desperate for pace and we signed grealish and dibling for our second biggest fee ever and our current biggest wages. We need to just concentrate on solving the problems we actually have.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:40 pm
by superpull
We're desperate for better footballers.

It would be just as big a mistake to buy players who's only attribute was speed.

Id prefer to come equipped with multiple tools to break down different defences personally

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 4:34 am
by Bluebridge
Two rapid fullbacks sorts out two slow wingers. Chuck in a pacy forward and BINGO(ALS)!

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 6:24 am
by AjaxAndy
Bluebridge wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 4:34 am Two rapid fullbacks sorts out two slow wingers. Chuck in a pacy forward and BINGO(ALS)!
Moyes talking about the need for height to combat set pieces makes me worry we won't see pacy full backs, but 6 foot somethings that are defensively sound above all else.

Oh and Thomas Soucek.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:10 am
by Lazarou II
AjaxAndy wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 6:24 am Moyes talking about the need for height to combat set pieces makes me worry we won't see pacy full backs, but 6 foot somethings that are defensively sound above all else.

Oh and Thomas Soucek.
I would say it is just shit defending generally, other teams can do it without a BFG at fullback.

And Pickford looks all at sea on corners.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:11 am
by TheRam
Flying full backs are dead in this league.

Diouf at West Ham has been ok Munoz is great but is more of a right mid but other than them I don’t think there’s anyone else.

It’s all centre halves and centre mids in the premier league at full back these days.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:31 am
by 4evablu
Pickford looks all at sea on corners because the defenders are too concerned with pushing shoving pulling shirts etc than
A) marking their man/space
B) if zonal protecting their zone
C) attacking the ball
D) protecting the keeper
E) actual defending….

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:38 am
by 4evablu
TheRam wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:11 am Flying full backs are dead in this league.

Diouf at West Ham has been ok Munoz is great but is more of a right but other than them I don’t think there’s anyone else.

It’s all centre halves and centre mids in the premier league at full back these days.
Except for Lewis Hall
Robinson
Liveremento
Williams
Rico Henry
Timber
White
To name just a few…

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:44 am
by TheRam
4evablu wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:38 am Except for Lewis Hall
Robinson
Liveremento
Williams
Rico Henry
Timber
White
To name just a few…
Lewis hall just dropped for Dan burn

Liveamento always injured. If you consider Newcastle as playing two flying full backs then you could say that’s why they’re down in 14th.

Robinson been rubbish this season
Rico Henry always injured
Timber a centre half turned full back
White a centre half turned full backs

Now go name me the amount of centre mids or centre halves who are playing at full back.

Or the full backs who are asked to either sit in the defence to make a back three, or go into the midfield.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 8:07 am
by AjaxAndy
TheRam wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:44 am Lewis hall just dropped for Dan burn

Liveamento always injured. If you consider Newcastle as playing two flying full backs then you could say that’s why they’re down in 14th.

Robinson been rubbish this season
Rico Henry always injured
Timber a centre half turned full back
White a centre half turned full backs

Now go name me the amount of centre mids or centre halves who are playing at full back.

Or the full backs who are asked to either sit in the defence to make a back three, or go into the midfield.
I think that just brings further in to question signing Grealish then tbh, if the game has moved away from full backs in the traditional sense (which I semi agree with), then you can't be buying a slow wide player when you have no pace in a team.

Although I still think Antonee Robinson is a great example of a flying full back who overlaps, especially if you have an RB who can slot in to make a back 3 when you're in possession. Lewis-Potter is another who is an extremely attacking left back, although Man UTD massively exploited the space he left in behind the other night.

Probably really need a pacy attacking LB and a more defensive RB who can still get forward when required. Allows us to stay defensively solid whilst giving Grealish the overlapping full back he needs.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 8:16 am
by Shogun
Digne and Cash both 6ft5 CBs really.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:37 am
by AjaxAndy
Also just to add to my post above, there's multiple ways to set up a team.... You'll probably find the inverted full backs and midfielders playing there etc is more the domain of the top teams where every player is an elite baller.

We aren't that, so you have to take the pieces and assemble them to be a functional unit. We aren't a team who will either be able to afford a midfielder who can play as an inverted fullback, not do we have the rest of the players required to play such a system.

We just need joined up thinking this summer, be that Grealish and a rapid overlapping LB, or instead get a rapid wide player and a full back that accommodates them by being defensively solid whilst still offering some threat on the overlap.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:22 am
by Silas
Think there's a weird obsession with pace. You only need one pace player to offer something different, if the rest of the squad are good footballers it's movement into space that makes the difference.

Re: Jack Grealish

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 12:30 pm
by 777Kidnappings
Silas wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:22 am Think there's a weird obsession with pace. You only need one pace player to offer something different, if the rest of the squad are good footballers it's movement into space that makes the difference.
1 quick player in the entire squad. Maybe thats where PSG have gone wrong