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AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 9:45 am Here's an interesting stat for you all...

Only one time in the past 10 seasons has a team in the relegation zone at the halfway point or after changed their manager and survived.

That was Dyche when he took over from Lampard.

As much as everyone hates him, that's quite an impressive stat.

To balance that out though that season was the fewest points ever needed to survive in the Premier League

Taken from this video which is an interesting watch regarding whether changing manager affects your chances of staying up, and when in the season the change matters.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 9:45 am Here's an interesting stat for you all...

Only one time in the past 10 seasons has a team in the relegation zone at the halfway point or after changed their manager and survived.

That was Dyche when he took over from Lampard.

As much as everyone hates him, that's quite an impressive stat.

Was he not sacked in the relegation zone halfway through before Moyes replaced him? Or did he not quite make the 19 match mark?

Shogun wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 10:20 am Was he not sacked in the relegation zone halfway through before Moyes replaced him? Or did he not quite make the 19 match mark?

Must have been just before that mark as the video goes through the last 10 seasons... Not sure the exact number but can't imagine it was much before tbh

Shogun wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 10:20 am Was he not sacked in the relegation zone halfway through before Moyes replaced him? Or did he not quite make the 19 match mark?

Nah we were about 16th when he got the boot

Cereal Killer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 10:45 am Nah we were about 16th when he got the boot

Ah yeah 1 point ahead of Ipswich who were 18th apparently. Shows just how badly he was doing that season considering how cut adrift the bottom 3 ended up.

Yeah that video goes in to the probability of changing manager when in or out of the relegation zone, and it does make a difference.

However the number of games a new manager has seems to be more important, so the earlier you replace the higher chance of staying up.

Based on the video it's statistically more likely West Ham stay up than Forest or Spurs, which I think is pretty interesting.

10 seasons is small sample size for a stat that specific.

The Doc wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2026 10:29 pm 10 seasons is small sample size for a stat that specific.

Disagree tbh. Football moves in cycles so including data older would actually make the results less accurate not more imo.

It is literally part of your job to tell a player how to press someone you fucking idiot.

Famously if I ask for help at work, my manager says "What? You don't know how to do that? You want me to teach you?"

Absolute blagger.

It wouldn't have surprised me if the entire squad didn't want to play for you Dyche mate.

My money is on Neal Maupay. He was an unused sub and Dyche started with Demarai Gray up front and subbed him off for Ellis Simms.

The fact he put "almost" at the end of that sentence makes me think he's probably talking bollocks. Probably players saying they're injured and he doesn't believe them.

Though good to see how highly he spoke about the crowd.

I don't think he was particularly a bad manager, just limited but pretty much what we needed that season with the squad we had.