AndSeel wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 1:21 pm
I was saying where it originates from. To demonstrate why it can be considered racism. Come on mate its not hard.
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Yeah, apologies, I was being facetious.
But I do shudder when people bring up racism unwarranted. Not you, you're responding to the comments.
Like Bluedylan said, his languid playing style attracts that attention, but it's doesn't mean he's lazy. Playing within himself a bit, and i think that he has so much power and pace, that when he doesn't use it often, it can appear that he hasn't tried that much during the game when he probably has.
He's a deep lying playmaker for Belgium. He takes the ball off the keeper and the CBs and starts the play off with short and long passes into midfield, and then defensively he sits in front of the back four using his big frame and his long legs to intercept and make tackles. He rarely needs to run anywhere.
We misuse him as a player. He's not about power and pace (which you might argue are stereotypical values attributed to him). His game is fundamentally silky and technical, but some people can't seem to see past what they think he should be because of his physicality.
This is how a better team uses Onana -
He barely moves anywhere. He just dictates play from deeper positions.
Admittedly there's way more pressure on the ball playing in the Prem, but you could see him doing this kind of role for Man U/Arsenal/Barcelona etc, rather than being misused as some box to box merchant who wins headers at corners, the way we use him.
If I were to try to simplify the problem as much as possible, I would describe him as lacking intensity, and add that he sometimes drifts through games in both a defensive and offensive capacity.
As others have said, his languid style combined with these things sometimes gives the impression he doesn't do as much as some of our 'busier' players. Even if their output is similar.
Lazy is probably the harshest way to look at it, but there are times where it's frustrating to see things bypass him, and I think playing alongside someone as industrious as Gueye doesn't help, as it just highlights the moments he isn't matching that same intensity.
No matter how we play, a player off his ability should be standing out in this team and be regarded as our best player.
He’s disappointed me in all honesty. Has nothing to do with my perception, or his race, it’s just my opinion.
Doesn’t mean I think he’s a poor player, or that he won’t go onto have a very good career. Just think he could have showed more during his time here and has lacked a willingness to really dig in when needed which is why he was dropped after the Chelsea game.
Good luck to him. I’m sure in a team more suited to his style he’ll be a very good player, but he’d be expected to make improvements in certain aspects of his game to succeed at that level.
The managers at the highest level are very demanding. That won’t accept being anonymous in the middle of the park for large periods of a game.
I mean yeah when he has a good game he looks levels above anyone else in the team, he just hasn't had many of those games this season.
It's not worrying because he's still young and inconsistency is expected and I think if we hang on to him this summer then next season he'll take it up a gear.
