I must admit I did just look up his record.
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Tempting a manager from another club midseason is messy, time-consuming work. The only way I can see it for us is if McKenna is our guy and we can torpedo Ipswich in the process.
Not into Lopetegui at all.
Too bad Lucien Favre is absolutely cooked.
Not into Lopetegui at all.
Too bad Lucien Favre is absolutely cooked.
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Sorry, I have nothing for you.
I have basically no time to follow football outside of Everton anymore, unfortunately.
I’m looking up FBRef pages every time we’re linked with a player, it’s all I’ve got now.
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Yeah, it's not good enough on the pitch. There is no way to really sugar coat it.kramer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:58 pm If limping to safety with Dyche felt like an option, it would be my top choice.
You have score goals to win games and you have to create chances to score goals. The lack of both chances and goals combined, with him citing it as a long-term problem, tells me we’re doomed if we persist with him.
I don't mean to add to the endless cycle of is it Dyche or is it the squad but it just feels like we really need to address both aspects unless we want to be effectively flipping a coin to get relegated.
I'm not trying to be a Dyche apologist as clearly we've seen the games this season. However, putting aside the poor standard of football we're playing for a minute, I look at where we could've finished without the points deduction last season and I look at who sits around there now and it's Spurs and Man United. Above them teams who have invested and improved and I struggle to see anyone above who squad wise is truly worse than us, and likewise those who are below us are squad wise pretty poor. Right now we sit where we are in what is probably the right place for the management/player talent we have and the investment we've not made in recent years. We probably belong with the likes of Wolves who also have been cutting costs. You could maybe argue a little about Brentford and Bournemouth but overall we are where we are for reasons of management and the players at our disposal.
I'd not be super excited to see a January go by with just Dyche gone and no significant improvements have been made to the players available. Even just 1 or 2 could make a huge difference. I'd also say IF the choice was limping along Dyche until summer but we invest significantly now in players I'd go for the latter all day long despite the turgidness because better players will impact games in spite of tactics.
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Just let Bainesy do it. We won't go down, and it would be nice to have a few months of not hating the manager. Start again this summer. All we can do.
Hiring Moyes or Mourinho just prolongs our sentence in Hell.
Hiring Moyes or Mourinho just prolongs our sentence in Hell.
"The best you can hope for is to die in your sleep." - Kenny Rogers (plausible Evertonian)
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Any idea how Baines is doing at the youth level?
I think we’re a bit beyond the point where we just need to be organized. Dyche is excellent on that front. We need ideas about how to actually build an attack and create a chance on top of said organization which is a bit trickier.
I don’t think I’d trust Baines in charge given his limited experience, regardless of how he’s been with our youth team, for what we need. This job needs a steady hand.
I think we’re a bit beyond the point where we just need to be organized. Dyche is excellent on that front. We need ideas about how to actually build an attack and create a chance on top of said organization which is a bit trickier.
I don’t think I’d trust Baines in charge given his limited experience, regardless of how he’s been with our youth team, for what we need. This job needs a steady hand.
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One slight issue with Moyes is that he does not like working with a DOF. He would want to call all of the shots.
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He should probably be moving into that sort of role himself at this stage of his career.
I think he’d be good at it, removes most of the day-to-day grind of man management and taking training.
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Shearer at Newcastle, Brooking at West Ham Freedman at Palace; these just give it to (insert most popular player you can think of) shouts hardly ever work.
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That's actually not a bad shout tbf. Could he come in until the end of the season as manager, then move upstairs into a DOF role? He's certainly got an eye for a bargain or two and knows the club inside out. I reckon he'd be a pretty decent DOF tbh. It's whether he'd be able to completely hang up his boots and let the head coach get on with the day to day coaching or would he be too tempted to get his tracky bottoms on and meddle in training.
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Exactly what I said last week, makes a lot of sense.74Blue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 5:45 pm That's actually not a bad shout tbf. Could he come in until the end of the season as manager, then move upstairs into a DOF role? He's certainly got an eye for a bargain or two and knows the club inside out. I reckon he'd be a pretty decent DOF tbh. It's whether he'd be able to completely hang up his boots and let the head coach get on with the day to day coaching or would he be too tempted to get his tracky bottoms on and meddle in training.