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TheRam wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:21 pm You’re comparing a centre midfielder to wingers there Brap.

Bit of an unfair comparison. I don’t think he’s a player who should be judged on goals or assists but would be nice if he could chip in with a few.
Would 0.10 less than an abdoulaye doucoure interest you?

I hear what you're saying but this is my problem with him and why he costs £30m, big attacking numbers in the champ. he's not coming here as a cm, he'll be an attacker / 10 but his actual production is low.

Lower than what we have and already don't rate. If we want a cm to and buy a proper cm. Would rather ugochukwu who is going to Burnley by far.
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53 premier league starts at the age of 27.

We are being bent over a bit here.

It’s why the idea of us being patient and waiting for high quality was fanciful.

It was always going to be take what we can get that can improve us at this point.

The window has been a failure and it’s all about improving the squad as much as we can.
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I think he’s going to help with ball progression first and foremost.

All of the comments I’ve seen from Leicester and Chelsea supporters have praised him for being a workhorse on the pitch and a top pro off it. That’s catnip for Moyes.

Don’t love the age profile or price but I think he’s going to make us better. High floor player, if he finds some form in front of goal it’s found money.

Don’t think he’s purely here as an attacking mid. You’ll see him play both roles.
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brap2 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:35 pm Would 0.10 less than an abdoulaye doucoure interest you?

I hear what you're saying but this is my problem with him and why he costs £30m, big attacking numbers in the champ. he's not coming here as a cm, he'll be an attacker / 10 but his actual production is low.

Lower than what we have and already don't rate. If we want a cm to and buy a proper cm. Would rather ugochukwu who is going to Burnley by far.
I don’t see him coming in as an attacking midfielder.

He replaces garner for me and that’s a big improvement.



https://fbref.com/en/players/1df4a109/Lesley-Ugochukwu

We don’t need another midfielder who doesn’t know how to pass the ball.
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brap2 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:35 pm Would 0.10 less than an abdoulaye doucoure interest you?

I hear what you're saying but this is my problem with him and why he costs £30m, big attacking numbers in the champ. he's not coming here as a cm, he'll be an attacker / 10 but his actual production is low.

Lower than what we have and already don't rate. If we want a cm to and buy a proper cm. Would rather ugochukwu who is going to Burnley by far.
How do you know what position he'll be playing in?

Might be Garner's replacement.

Might play in a dual 8 role with Gana and Garner sitting behind as he 6.

Might play as a box to box with Alcaraz as an 8 and Gana as the 6 behind.

No one knows, but crazy to be complaining about his lack of output in a position you don't know he'll be playing.
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Past performance is not indicative of future performance.

Stats will never tell you the whole story. KDH has had a different career path but is now coming into his prime. He has also had less games and so his legs should be fresh.

Sometimes it’s also about how the individual fits into the teams system and style. He will almost certainly help us in the middle of the park.

I thought he was excellent for Leicester. Always found him to be a threat when they played us so I think it will be a really useful signing.
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If we seal this and Dibling, we replace the brainless players from last night’s starting eleven which played fairly well. Absolute minimum requirements for this window.

Then we still have time to add a right back and another midfielder or two (preferably one attacking and one defensive) to make it comprehensive.

It’s been more stressful than it should’ve been and I don’t think we’re getting any particularly great value (yet) but it keeps on track to be a midtable team with room for further growth next summer.
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He's more of an 8 than a 10.
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I'll be honest, very honest here KDH and Dibling are very underwhelming should they go through.

Feels as though we are panickling and perhaps getting a little desperate.
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BBC reporting initial £24m with £3-4m in addons.

Excellent deal in the current market that.

Very happy with it. Will improve our ball progression a lot.
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TheRam wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:45 pm I don’t see him coming in as an attacking midfielder.

He replaces garner for me and that’s a big improvement.



https://fbref.com/en/players/1df4a109/Lesley-Ugochukwu

We don’t need another midfielder who doesn’t know how to pass the ball.
I don't see it myself, he'll end up RW before he ends up in the 8 for us imo.
AjaxAndy wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:46 pm How do you know what position he'll be playing in?

Might be Garner's replacement.

Might play in a dual 8 role with Gana and Garner sitting behind as he 6.

Might play as a box to box with Alcaraz as an 8 and Gana as the 6 behind.

No one knows, but crazy to be complaining about his lack of output in a position you don't know he'll be playing.
Yeah maybe! Not for me, but maybe!
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brap2 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:52 pm Horrible deal for me that, just under £30m on KDH who's been bombed out for two years and is 27?!

No no no, this is a horrible move
Let’s be honest, they only signed him in July 2024 so they’ve done well to bomb him out for 2 years
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Club World Cup champion btw
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Indiantoffee75 wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 2:56 pm I'll be honest, very honest here KDH and Dibling are very underwhelming should they go through.

Feels as though we are panickling and perhaps getting a little desperate.
Have a search for Dibling on YouTube. If you aren’t impressed by his dribbling and skills by the end of the video, then I will be extremely surprised. The kid is a baller
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Don't even think he comes with heavy expectations at £24m.

It's £3m less than we paid for Barry and we're not even expecting Barry to start!
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