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Goaljira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:21 pm

Yeah okay, I've talked myself around. 18 days to go find a Baines, Arteta, Cahill and a Saha/Jelavic/Yakubu/Rooney and it's off to popworld.

Gash wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:38 pm Fair enough, I think I've analysed you spot on to be honest, your post proves that. And we all know that the 'told you so' posters will be ready in the wings if this all goes tits up.

I don't think you're being romantic or a dreamer either, I think it's daft to want some gung ho appointment or a manager with no experience in this league or fighting relegation which could easily go wrong to be appointed at this stage. Moyes isn't a backward looking appointment but it's an appointment that's been forced on the owners that they didn't want to make at this stage in their tenure and if we'd got to the summer safe with Dyche in charge I doubt Moyes would even be a consideration, that doesn't make the wrong appoitment just now though.

None of the other 'stabilising' appointments you mentioned worked and all very nearly took us down at some stage and we're in that same position again and I certainly wouldn't call Benirez a stabilising appointment, he was exactly the opposite in fact, both with the fans and what he did on the pitch. Moyes hopefully keeps us up and brings stability for the owners to then build on but if he takes us down it's not on his shoulders. The foundations for that were laid by Moshiri and his vanity appointments poor signings and throwing money around like confetti, he was romantic too and made an absolute arse of it.

Stabilising the club is exactly what's needed at the moment and it's very short sighted not to see that and to moan about it.

fxceltic wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:48 pm Is signing Moyes looking backwards? Surely that’s all about how you choose to frame it, in my view he will give us a platform to build on, therefore it’s a forward move.

You say when will we do anything other than try to stabilise, but just cos we haven’t managed it doesn’t mean we should be something different, let’s just get it right.

Lampard was never about stabilisation was he? He was exactly the type of person you are advocating for (albeit not the right one).
Benitez was just a fucking brain fart, lord knows what Moshiri was thinking there

74Blue wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:16 pm It really isn't a worrying signal from our new owners at all, given our current position.

The shite pulled Arne Slot out of their arse to replace Jurgen Klopp. Yes that's true, but there is a whole world of difference between replacing Klopp at Liverpool and replacing Dyche at Everton. Whether you like it or not, Liverpool are a top 4 club in the PL, challenging for the title evey year and have Champions League football. They also have a very, very good squad and commercial revenue that is currently out of Everton's league. They were able to take their time and plan for the future, given that Klopp told them months and months in advance of his intention to eventually step down. We are 1 point off the bottom 3, still massively hamstrung by PSR, have no European football, very little in the way of commercial revenue and our manager then decides that he has taken the club as far as he can. This meant that rather than spending months and months scouting out a suitable replacement, who could start the job of rebuilding in the summer, we have been forced to act quickly and get someone in who was available immediately. We don't have the luxury of being able to afford a new manager time to settle in and find his feet. We have to get someone now who can hit the ground running. Moyes is as good an option for this as anyone, simply because he is vastly experienced, knows the club inside out and is available right away.

It's all well and good.making a Hollywood appointment, but what if that manager comes in and takes 2/3 months to sort it out and start to pick up points. In the position that we're currently in, that could mean that we are sat in the bottom 3 cat adrift, should a couple of the teams below us start picking up a few results. Wolves look.like they are starting to get their act together. Ipswich look like they could pick up a couple of results and Leicester could quite feasibly string a few results together, so we have to keep up the pace with them. We are moving into our new home at the end of the season and simply cannot afford to be in the Championship. We NEED to remain a PL club.

Bluedylan1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:56 pm Liverpool wanted Alonso and Amorim before they approached Slot, so it was hardly that scientific.

TrevorSteven wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:50 pm As Ive understood it Liverpool chose Slot above Amorim as his profile suited them best. I.e Amorim wants to play with three defenders while Slot is more comfortable with a backline four.

Then again as someone pointed out. Liverpool had lots of time to do this research, Everton didn't have that now. Still we basically hired a new manager the day after we sacked the former one, so we could have used more time.

Goaljira wrote:

Yeah okay, I've talked myself around. 18 days to go find a Baines, Arteta, Cahill and a Saha/Jelavic/Yakubu/Rooney and it's off to popworld.

Goaljira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:21 pm

Yeah okay, I've talked myself around. 18 days to go find a Baines, Arteta, Cahill and a Saha/Jelavic/Yakubu/Rooney and it's off to popworld.

crackling wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:12 pm Hahaha what a thing to be reminded Sly Stallone was on the pitch and we chanted Rocky at him