Relegation Battle

[UnsyisaRhino]

Don’t usually have time for such lengthy discussions but this was a proper reality check, think it should be compulsory viewing for any Everton fan who doesn’t appreciate the full depth of the shit we are in.

Almost can't face listening to it, sounds grim.

[Escalator]

If anyone is wondering why Moshiri can’t find a buyer they just need to listen to this.

[777Kidnappings]

Haven't listened to it all yet but I think the reality is now the club is worth less than nothing. Fans seem to think next year and the new stadium will make a massive difference but with 100s of millions in debts at high interest rates I think it more likely that we face 5 or even 10 years of austerity and even then that's assuming we aren't relegated.

I wonder how long the appetite for the new stadium is going to last. Watching us lose games and sell talent from more comfortable and more expensive seats. Everton fans don't like or enjoy Everton. How long will people be willing to pay even more for that experience

Be quite a fitting end to this shambles if our last season at Goodison saw us relegated and our first season in the new stadium saw us in administration.

It all feels incredibly hopeless but I think a lot of our fanbase thinks next year will be different

[Toddacelli]

Hoping such a thing as ‘new stadium bounce’ exists, we have a great first season in BMD and everything starts looking rosy, because honestly, without success on the field, I don’t know how we attract a good calibre of buyer.

[MayorFarnham]

There's plenty of clubs in the lower leagues that have built new stadiums in thr PL era.

[Toddacelli]

There's plenty of clubs in the lower leagues that have built new stadiums in thr PL era.

And how did their first season in their new homes go?

[Lazarou II]

Hello darkness my old friend.

[Evertonian418]

100% relegation nailed on this season if Dyche stays. How many payers last night had an excuse why they didn't want to play. Not a good sign.

[777Kidnappings]

Going down with about 20 points would probably be a relatively calm stress free season. Like dying peacefully in your sleep after a long illness. It really is becoming quite easy to take the losses now. Villa wasn't surprised or overly bothered. Last night was actually a funny everton way to go. 1 point from the next 3 and we can completely give up

[TheRam]

Palace lost their first seven games and stayed up quite comfortably after making a change.

Might not even be in a relegation scrap come the business end of the season.

[Cozzie]

I'm starting to feel it's "Branthwaite or bust"

He'll make a ginormous change to us at the back end of the pitch.

One injury to him though and we simply can't last with Keane at the back. That's my worry, the squad depth.

We need to strengthen big time in Jan.

It's also worth noting that, I think, we only had 1 point after 5 matchs last season, so if we draw against Leicester we will be exactly where we were points wise after 5 games. We beat Brentford in game 6 I think. Ended up on 40 points (defacto 48) that season so not quite in full blown panic mode yet.

The quality of the 3 promoted teams have improved on last seasons 3 so it will be tougher.

We do look a lot better going forward this season we just really need to see the back of Keggers and hope Branners stays fit.

By the time Jan comes we MAY have been taken over and the new crop might want a different manager.

Still think we will scrape by again this season.

[Paddockoldie]

I'm still sure we'll be ok at the end of the season. Why? I'm a stupid blue who loves the club

[AjaxAndy]

I've calmed down a bit since last night and my more rational head thinks the following...

We started with Dixon, Armstrong and McNeil at LB... I'd say only McNeil performed ok out of those three.

We started Doucoure and although he scored it looks like he's cooked and not someone we should be starting matches any more.

Virginia ok shot stopper, pretty crap at everything else, again shouldn't be starting games and won't be outside of maybe this cup again next year.

Yes the strategy seemed very cautious and basically shite, but if Lindstrom hadn't been taking one v one lessons off DCL we probably win that game.

The subs weren't all that bad, it's the perception that was the issue... Dyche needs to read the room and even if he thinks it makes sense take in to consideration how the fans will react. Why give yourself a stick for the fans to beat you with?

At the end of the day it's a cup we won't win and going out is completely meh in the grand scheme of things.

Leicester is a massive game though, shit or bust... The fans are turning and he needs something big to get them back onside. A turgid defensive loss and I think it becomes untenable.

[Toddacelli]

Some people are putting a hell of a lot on Branthwaite’s shoulders.

[AjaxAndy]

Some people are putting a hell of a lot on Branthwaite’s shoulders.

He's missed all of pre season and all the matches so far... He'll be a mile off when he comes back, and it's that difficult second season that some players struggle with.

It's possible he comes back like he's never been away, but I don't think we should expect it or pin our hopes on it.