David Moyes
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Re: David Moyes
Unless Man Utd are convinced by him, and given Carrick is still in the job suggests they’re not totally sold, I doubt he gets much better offers personally. Maybe England if Tuchel is given the boot as there aren’t many decent English managers around.
Possibly doing him a disservice there, but I just don’t think he ticks enough boxes for most of the other bigger clubs.
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Re: David Moyes
Until the club is run properly no manager with any reputation is coming here. It's a no win situation for them.
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Re: David Moyes
2 wins in the last 15 league games is worrying. Presumably that points return spread over a 38 game league season would usually get you relegated
3 things that could change our fortunes
Moyes manages to get this team playing better football and picking up more points (though isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?)
Some key transfers in Jan. better striker than Barry coming in and hitting the ground running, an actual right back that is superior to the actual right back we just bought who seemingly can’t defend
Change the manager and get someone in who can get more from these players
Not sure if there is anyone to pull the trigger, or if there is at what point they would say we need to change manager here - possibly when relegation looks like it could be a real possibility as surely that is going to effect potential buyers negatively
3 things that could change our fortunes
Moyes manages to get this team playing better football and picking up more points (though isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?)
Some key transfers in Jan. better striker than Barry coming in and hitting the ground running, an actual right back that is superior to the actual right back we just bought who seemingly can’t defend
Change the manager and get someone in who can get more from these players
Not sure if there is anyone to pull the trigger, or if there is at what point they would say we need to change manager here - possibly when relegation looks like it could be a real possibility as surely that is going to effect potential buyers negatively
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Re: David Moyes
Can we really see the owner putting money into the club in January if we are for sale Moyes will eventually be forced to change it and maybe stumble into a working side getting enough points to see us safe then good luck Davy
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Re: David Moyes
Even as "Moyes-out" as I currently am - I'm not engaging with the 2 wins in 15 rhetoric at all as last season doesn't matter. It was a different squad of players with different issues and had we won the last 7 games of last season we wouldn't be talking about 9 wins in 15 we'd be talking about where we are in the table.
I still want Moyes gone mind you as on top of his usual shite defensive football he's also wasting some good young talent by leaving them rotting on the bench - I think that might be the thing that makes the owners eventually act as it's driving down the value of those players.
If Hackney/George/Dibling get some game time and have a few good games they're immediately £50m+ assets because of their age and nationality in this league, leave them on a bench all season and they're £10m-£15m by the summer.
I still want Moyes gone mind you as on top of his usual shite defensive football he's also wasting some good young talent by leaving them rotting on the bench - I think that might be the thing that makes the owners eventually act as it's driving down the value of those players.
If Hackney/George/Dibling get some game time and have a few good games they're immediately £50m+ assets because of their age and nationality in this league, leave them on a bench all season and they're £10m-£15m by the summer.
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Re: David Moyes
For me the 2 wins in 15 is an indication that this is a continuous thing. If we'd have gone unbeaten in our last 7 games last season as did in our first 6 this season then you'd have heard plenty of "Unbeaten in 13 games" (probably from the man himself), so it's a valid thing to say imo.
I think the next couple of home matches are must win for Moyes. Not so much in terms of his job security because I think we'd have to be in the relegation zone for a month before he was a possibility to be sacked.
Newcastle Cup
Coventry
If we go out tonight then he's going to lose a lot of the fanbase knowing what's waiting in the QFs. If we don't beat Coventry then I think we're getting toxic pretty quickly.
The good thing is that there's no reason we can't win both of those matches and are favourites for both.
I think the next couple of home matches are must win for Moyes. Not so much in terms of his job security because I think we'd have to be in the relegation zone for a month before he was a possibility to be sacked.
Newcastle Cup
Coventry
If we go out tonight then he's going to lose a lot of the fanbase knowing what's waiting in the QFs. If we don't beat Coventry then I think we're getting toxic pretty quickly.
The good thing is that there's no reason we can't win both of those matches and are favourites for both.
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Re: David Moyes
Absolutely credit for Moyes after the win yesterday.
Changing the team really worked.
I also liked the tempo that we played at, even if it was a little frantic and messy in the first 10 minutes. There were a lot of one touch passes, high pressing and loads of sprints.
Great to be in a QF. Let’s end Fleetwoods dream. I don’t see us making the same mistake of playing a weakened side and should comfortably beat them.
Changing the team really worked.
I also liked the tempo that we played at, even if it was a little frantic and messy in the first 10 minutes. There were a lot of one touch passes, high pressing and loads of sprints.
Great to be in a QF. Let’s end Fleetwoods dream. I don’t see us making the same mistake of playing a weakened side and should comfortably beat them.
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Re: David Moyes
Lets hope he has yet again stumbled into something that works.
Seemed to press higher up with more energy than we have of late.
Seemed to press higher up with more energy than we have of late.
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Re: David Moyes
Fuck that credit for the win last night but he only played that team because his hands were tied as soon as he has norgaard fit he will be in midfield with garner and kdh he hasn’t seen the light like last season he got a performance because he had to play the younger lads he will revert to type on Monday
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