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The Doc wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:09 pm Why is wanting to get into Europe in two years a red flag?

brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:41 pm Think the feeling is that it's probably what moshiri would have said as well which leads to shortcuts

Bluedylan1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:03 pm I think it's been a mixed bag really, and I don't think there should be any problem saying so. They're not going to get everything right in such a hectic time for us.

They appointed Moyes, and got a massive upturn which is obviously a big tick. We can't forget how bleak things were looking last January.

Also they've secured Branthwaite and Gana on contracts, and let some other big earners go who weren't contributing enough. That's really good. So far we've signed 5 players, three of them in the 19-22 age bracket. That's all positive. There's going to be a few more, hopefully again in the younger age bracket.

The off the pitch stuff all seems pretty good so far.

On the negative side, it's pretty awful that we still don't have a specialist right sided attacker by now. It was a glaring hole in the team, and HAD to be a huge priority. They've clearly gone for a few people, and had the knock back or the prices quoted have been deemed too high. Still, no real excuse for that.

Also the thing about various heads of departments not starting their jobs until this summer or in some cases September has clearly hamstrung us a bit. Maybe in the long run it will have been worth waiting for those appointments because of their expertise but right now it's left us a bit hampered.

And they've messed up the pre-season tour a bit, not giving the manager more players earlier, and not allowing the club to show a better version of itself in a key foreign market.

On the whole, I would say generally positive, but some mistakes in there which a) hopefully we won't encounter again because the size of the overhaul won't be this big again and b) hopefully they will learn from for future windows.

The Doc wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:09 pm Why is wanting to get into Europe in two years a red flag?

kramer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:02 pm It’s what any owner of an established PL team would say.

It’s also meaningless without specifics.

Champions League? Ridiculous expectation given the money at the top and the way financial rules have stopped new money from spending with the established big clubs.

Europa? It’s getting harder and harder with so many clubs spending money and making better decisions but if you’ve been around the league long enough, why would you not be targeting this?

And that’s before we even mention the Conference League.

UnsyisaRhino wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 5:39 pm There's also the reality of managing europe once you make it.

Let's say by some miracle we get there this year, we'd have to add more quality and more numbers again next year to continue to compete in the league and europe.

I don't think 2 years is a red flag, but based on this summer so far and the current state of the club and squad, I think it might be too soon.

brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:05 pm Listened to the American toffee pod (or blue frontier as it now is).

Fairly critical on structure and the how the summer window is playing out. Make it sound like it's a bit up the air,, red flags on TFG wanting to get to Europe in two years, red flags on the clashing targets and poor synchronicity between targets and their willingness to come.

Also said KDH will likely play as a ten in their opinion, must say I agree, if not wide.

AjaxAndy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:59 pm I think you must be he only person who thinks he'll play out wide / hopes he does for some reason I can't work out.

The Doc wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 7:10 pm I can see KDH on the right with the squad the way it is tbf.