Dyche - HE'S GONE

[Bluebridge]

He is a kopite though

Forest fan he is.

[Cozzie]

Really hope TFG take not of the stats.

Sliding horribly.

[TheRam]

Just get rid please.

Happy with the job he’s done in very difficult circumstances but my god we can do so much better than this.

Probably doesn’t help that dyche and his assistant are known to be sinking pints the day before a game.

[kramer]

I know I’ve been advocating for a change in the summer but thinking about the side today makes me think we need to start the rebuild even sooner.

We rely so heavily on so many older players with no succession plan. Dyche is wasting minutes on Young and Coleman when he could be building up Patterson.

There are other positions where nailing the replacements is crucial. Mykolenko simply isn’t good enough and flipping someone like Young over to that side barely helps.

I don’t know how prepared this new group is but he might need to go ASAP so we can start getting some semblance of something into place. I’m worried about us not having enough settled first teamers to start next season with Branthwaite clearly too good for us, crucial contributors like Gana and Doucoure being so advanced in age, so many contributors being on loan, not to mention the puzzle that is our striker situation.

[kramer]

The good news is that we’re a bit of a blank slate for whoever is willing to take the reins.

[Lazarou II]

The good news is that we’re a bit of a blank slate for whoever is willing to take the reins.

Yeah definitely no attacking patterns to unravel for the new guy, a blank slate and a blank canvas firing blanks.

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[Cods]

I did the same exercise the other day. Last 4 seasons we’ve made profit, but about 7 previous we make big losses. This is purely player trading, not club profit/loss.

Lead me to the conclusion that we had a massive period of huge overspending, followed by four years of frugality, with both periods underpinned by shit buys, extortionate contracts and terrible commercial management.

24/25 spent €50.2 sold €83.65 = €33.45M profit
23/24 spent €40.5 sold €82.8 = €42.3M profit
22/23 spent €83.1 sold €103.6 = €20.5M profit
21/22 spent €39.5 sold €46 = €6.5M profit
After that it gets grim though:
20/21 = €70M LOSS
19/20 = €33M LOSS
18/19 = €70M LOSS
17/18 = €71M LOSS
16/17 = €25M LOSS
15/16 = €37M LOSS
14/15 = €38M LOSS
13/14 = €14M PROFIT

Again- this is based purely on player trading. Data comes from transfermarkt.co.uk - maths is poster’s own.

Nice maths Todda and the point is well made mate. And it's of course the root cause.

My point was more angled at that for all the huge huge player trading/recruitment (and larger financial) mistakes of the decade or so prior to 5 years ago, that during the average time taken to churn the majority of a playing squad, the first team is now a Pickford away from bare bones.

We've certainly not had the financial strength to continue that earlier spend rate, whilst our direct competition at the time, and those we see ourselves on par with now, haven't really (or yet) been troubled. They've still largely been building whilst we've been offloading, from everywhere.

And this has the properties of both momentum and inertia. We've had to make every transfer a winner (and clearly haven't, we've sunk deeper), whilst others have had the luxury of not needing that. Let's hope we've the chance to reverse this over the next 3 to 5 seasons, as I'm sure it won't be immediate.

Apart from the shiny new lure on the docks, the fish still unfortunately has been rotting from the head. But we are still here.

[Risky]

Today was 100% expected. Yeah he can set up a team to frustrate and if all goes well nick a draw against the best teams, but he's proven time and time again he's got no flexibility in the way he sets up to account for different opposition.

Doucoure a prime example - yeah he performs an important role in your back to the wall games with his workrate and his ability to stretch things a little, but games like today when you want to get on the ball and look to create something then he's totally not suitable. But Dyche just seems to pick his preferred 11 regardless of the opposition. I'd love to see us with a manager who can vary the setup and personell based on the opposition when required.

I've been Dyche out for ages, and fundamentally nothing has changed for me this season. He's completely one dimensional and is definitely not a guarantee of us staying up. He seems to have thrown the players under the bus post-match today as well which is never a good sign, for all that they're hardly blameless.

Thanks for keeping us up Sean, but as Burnley realised there comes a point where it doesn't keep working.

[American Evertonian]

Issue is in our last 9 matches, Craig Dawson has scored 40% of our goals.

[Robioto]

Now is the time to get rid. With the new owners now in place, the January window about to open and 18 abysmal performances it's time to get this bellend out of the club. Potter would be my choice, if he'll take it.

[Juanito]

Yeah, when you struggle for goals you don’t throw your strikers under the bus. Nothing to do with your system is it, Dyche?

He’s toast. Sooner TFG see it the better

[Audrey Horne]

Any rumblings about him going?

[Juanito]

Any rumblings about him going?

I’ve been searching online for something. It’s unbearable now watching these abject performances and then hearing him blame the players.

[Escalator]

Any rumblings about him going?

Think yesterday will have been a wake up call for Friedkin after the three draws, my guess is when we get battered by Bournemouth next week he will pull the trigger, surely ?

[StirlingBlue]

Think yesterday will have been a wake up call for Friedkin after the three draws, my guess is when we get battered by Bournemouth next week he will pull the trigger, surely ?

Doesn’t feel like he’s close to going at all, would be massively surprised if he was let go anytime soon