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It is possible for both Dyche and Thelwell to be a bit shit. Both have done some good things in their time here but both have fallen short IMO.

Problem with the DOF position in my opinion is simply they can’t lose…buys a player who turns out crap…..eg Beto..
“ his stats were good prior to us signing him”
“ I spoke with the manager prior to signing him to see if he was interested in the player”
“The manager never gave him a chance”
“He never gave him enough minutes on the fiel
Etc etc etc….bullet proof…..

4evablu wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:34 pm Problem with the DOF position in my opinion is simply they can’t lose…buys a player who turns out crap…..eg Beto..
“ his stats were good prior to us signing him”
“ I spoke with the manager prior to signing him to see if he was interested in the player”
“The manager never gave him a chance”
“He never gave him enough minutes on the fiel
Etc etc etc….bullet proof…..

You arent bullet proof if more of your signings are shit though

Agree….but principal being there’s an escape for them to get out of it….

IMO…..DOF’s will be a fad of the past sooner rather than later…..

All things considered, I just want him gone and his backroom staff because it's a collective responsibility and that includes Thelwell. A clean sweep of the cupboard. Just hope it's not too late because we have to stay up to benefit from the move

Paddockoldie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:04 pm All things considered, I just want him gone and his backroom staff because it's a collective responsibility and that includes Thelwell. A clean sweep of the cupboard. Just hope it's not too late because we have to stay up to benefit from the move

If TFG perform like they have at Roma then I think your wish will be granted, and then probably granted every few months from there on.

Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:51 pm Have ye gone from deflecting from dyche towards thelwell now like it’s all his fault that dyche can’t gel a group of players together

You claimed the other day that thelwell had done a good job because gomes, mina and Ali were no longer on the books. I mean that's a low bar. He just didn't renew their contracts

We have to stop being so afraid of failure and being relegated after the takeover. If we want to progress, we need to take risks, and that involves changing the way we approach things on the pitch.

It requires evolution of us as a club. We have an unbelievable opportunity through the stadium to start achieving big things again in the future, and the building of that future has to start somewhere. The time for boring, defensive minded managers needs to come to an end. More Marco Silvas, Less Allardyce/Benitez/Dyche.

Gary1878 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:38 pm We have to stop being so afraid of failure and being relegated after the takeover. If we want to progress, we need to take risks, and that involves changing the way we approach things on the pitch.

It requires evolution of us as a club. We have an unbelievable opportunity through the stadium to start achieving big things again in the future, and the building of that future has to start somewhere. The time for boring, defensive minded managers needs to come to an end. More Marco Silvas, Less Allardyce/Benitez/Dyche.

I think winning football matches breeds confidence, and to do that regularly we just need better players.
With the exception of Benitez we have played really good, intense football under every manager. Last season some of the performances under Dyche were really good, and I could really buy into that. Similarly, we have had a more attack minded manager in Lampard, and he was shit and despite the intent it was woeful to watch at times.
Id personally hate to get someone that was obsessed with tikitaka style approach, and as good as they can be, I find it pretty boring watching City.
I agree I want a manager that wants to win games, rather than not lose them, which is what we have at the moment, but I'm not that worried about the how

777Kidnappings wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:28 pm You claimed the other day that thelwell had done a good job because gomes, mina and Ali were no longer on the books. I mean that's a low bar. He just didn't renew their contracts

Yeah I think he has done a good job considering the job he inherited even getting 50 million for a shit player

We're still in the top 5 of world clubs with the largest negative net spends the last 5 years. This is the #1 reason we are where we are.

Coincidentally, three of those 5 sold a player named Onana.

Gary1878 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:38 pm We have to stop being so afraid of failure and being relegated after the takeover. If we want to progress, we need to take risks, and that involves changing the way we approach things on the pitch.

It requires evolution of us as a club. We have an unbelievable opportunity through the stadium to start achieving big things again in the future, and the building of that future has to start somewhere. The time for boring, defensive minded managers needs to come to an end. More Marco Silvas, Less Allardyce/Benitez/Dyche.

I agree up to a point, but what would relegation mean post take over? I know in the last few years it would have been catastrophic and a threat to the clubs existence in general, would that still be the case post take over or could the new owners just pump enough money in to keep things afloat?

Could do with a new manager bounce West Ham are going to act this week Leicester have already lose tonight he should be sacked by the morning

NickNack wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:05 pm It is possible for both Dyche and Thelwell to be a bit shit. Both have done some good things in their time here but both have fallen short IMO.

And yet we’re the lowest spenders in the PL over the last 5 years and during that time we have a net spend of a bottom half Championship team.

If this squad really should be top 10/12 like most on here think, then someone must’ve been doing something right?

Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:59 pm Could do with a new manager bounce West Ham are going to act this week Leicester have already lose tonight he should be sacked by the morning

How many times do people have to tell you we’re between ownership and he’s not getting sacked? We could lose 10-nil tonight and he’s not going anywhere.