Dyche - HE'S GONE

[Escalator]

Not even a sniff of a sacking?

We can lose 5-0 on Wednesday night and he still won’t be sacked.

[TheRam]

Has just been sold.

Do you get the money for it or does it just go as a credit on your account?

[Escalator]

Do you get the money for it or does it just go as a credit on your account?

Credit on account, club makes a profit as I get reimbursed 1/29th of a concession and they can then sell it at full rate.
Credits go towards next years ST

[TheRam]

Credit on account, club makes a profit as I get reimbursed 1/29th of a concession and they can then sell it at full rate.

What a farce.

[777Kidnappings]

Ball Possession - 20th
Goals Scored - 19th
xG - 18th
Passes - 19th
Assists - 20th
Corners Won - 18th
Open Play Goals - 19th

You think this squad of players is that bad?

No but I don't think it's significantly better either. A lot of them stats are the same thing. Goals, xg, assists and open play goals. That all says we don't score goals. If we were 15th or 16th across all them things I wouldn't say it was unexpected. Dyche has been shit but I think the team is also poor

I don't know why thelwell gets off so lightly. The signings under him and dyche have been shocking

Dyche has to go but we will be a bottom 6 side with these players regardless

[AndSeel]

We can lose 5-0 on Wednesday night and he still won’t be sacked.

I fear the same. Think he's here until after the derby.

[Cozzie]

He's here until the take over is complete that's for sure.

[TheRam]

No but I don't think it's significantly better either. A lot of them stats are the same thing. Goals, xg, assists and open play goals. That all says we don't score goals. If we were 15th or 16th across all them things I wouldn't say it was unexpected. Dyche has been shit but I think the team is also poor

I don't know why thelwell gets off so lightly. The signings under him and dyche have been shocking

Dyche has to go but we will be a bottom 6 side with these players regardless

We weren’t a bottom six team last season so why are we one now?

What changed so much in the summer?

It’s all there to see. We don’t press anymore, we don’t score from set pieces, the defence was a shambles at the start, we don’t create chances.

We are worse at every single thing we do this season and it’s all on the manager.

Thellwell gets off because most people realise he has a pretty impossible job trying to build a squad, and under the circumstances he’s done well to make us competitive.

[777Kidnappings]

We weren’t a bottom six team last season so why are we one now?

What changed so much in the summer?

It’s all there to see. We don’t press anymore, we don’t score from set pieces, the defence was a shambles at the start, we don’t create chances.

We are worse at every single thing we do this season and it’s all on the manager.

Thellwell gets off because most people realise he has a pretty impossible job trying to build a squad, and under the circumstances he’s done well to make us competitive.

I think the set piece Goals are the difference. No one is disputing dyche is doing a bad job. Think a vote would get 100% for him to go now

Thelwells job is any harder than dyches?? He's signed maupay and beto to solve our striker problems. He was dof when dyche arrived. He signed o brien. Signed loan players who seem completely unsuitable to the manager. Hes been awful and he gets a pass cos he's got a hard job. When did he make us competitive

[Raptor]

I think the set piece Goals are the difference. No one is disputing dyche is doing a bad job. Think a vote would get 100% for him to go now

Thelwells job is any harder than dyches?? He's signed maupay and beto to solve our striker problems. He was dof when dyche arrived. He signed o brien. Signed loan players who seem completely unsuitable to the manager. Hes been awful and he gets a pass cos he's got a hard job. When did he make us competitive

There are a lot of assumptions in this, I don't think he had the pick of every player in the world when he chose what players to take on loan. We're fucked financially, I imagine he almost had to take what was on offer to fill a squad, beggars can't be chooses. The conversation was probably pretty easy with Dyche 'look, this is what you can have, take it, or you'll have to use the kids'

[777Kidnappings]

There are a lot of assumptions in this, I don't think he had the pick of every player in the world when he chose what players to take on loan. We're fucked financially, I imagine he almost had to take what was on offer to fill a squad, beggars can't be chooses. The conversation was probably pretty easy with Dyche 'look, this is what you can have, take it, or you'll have to use the kids'

We need a fullback but have a paceless winger/number 10 take it or leave it. We need a goalscorer but have 50m plus on chermiti, beto and maupay take it or leave it.b

Obviously he's got a very difficult job but if the expectations are just warm bodies on buy now pay later or loan than anyone can do that job. Someone the other week was giving him credit for getting big earners off the books. I assume they meant the likes of mina gomes and Ali...credit for contracts expiring.

He's continued to waste what little we have on players who often aren't even good enough for our awful team

[TheRam]

We need a fullback but have a paceless winger/number 10 take it or leave it. We need a goalscorer but have 50m plus on chermiti, beto and maupay take it or leave it.b

Obviously he's got a very difficult job but if the expectations are just warm bodies on buy now pay later or loan than anyone can do that job. Someone the other week was giving him credit for getting big earners off the books. I assume they meant the likes of mina gomes and Ali...credit for contracts expiring.

He's continued to waste what little we have on players who often aren't even good enough for our awful team

You are aware his job involves a lot more than bringing players in?

[777Kidnappings]

You are aware his job involves a lot more than bringing players in?

Absolutely but no one is arguing he's done a good job with anything else, mainly because we don't really know. His input in the 1st team has been poor. I don't get why he gets a pass because it's a hard job. Some of our signings under him have been awful. We've signed 3 strikers worse than the striker we already had who's scored about 6 goals from open play in 3 seasons

All I'm saying is there's plenty of blame to go around and he's been part of the problem. Be happy if him and dyche aren't here next season

[AjaxAndy]

Thelwell's had an unenviable task of buying players with little to no money, but it's hard to say he's done a good job.

Beto is about a horrendous waste of money as you can get, and we were linked 12 months before we signed him so was clearly on his radar for a while, it wasn't just the buy now pay later deal that was appealing to him.

Maupay was a laughably bad signing.

Harrison on loan not once but twice

Broja who in December still isn't fit enough to play meaning we wasted nearly half a season's loan which could have been used far more effectively.

Multiple players the manager doesn't seem to feel are suitable for his system.

Ndaiye is probably the only one I can really think of who I'd say was a really good signing. Maybe Tarks on a free was good business too but not exactly inspired.

It's been a hard job and I always want to judge people on how they perform in an environment to succeed, but regardless of what else he does at the club his most important role is player recruitment and he's wasted money we couldn't afford to waste on utter rubbish or players that don't suit our requirements whilst ignoring gaping holes in the team that needed addressing.

He's been a bit of a disaster in all fairness.

[Cods]

I just don't think we had any viable and affordable solid options for a striker when we signed Beto, the place would have been burnt down if we'd not signed a striker that at least some people had heard of, as the atmosphere around it appeared pretty toxic at the time, whether he fit what we needed or not.

We've certainly not improved up front since, but also like Silva's sacking, what option did the club have? Say we'll go again without an option up front? It bought time, pretty much for free. If it only half worked they would have been happy. Unfortunately it's worked even less than that.