Future Captain Harrison Armstrong

[TheRam]

Armstrong stays in over Hackney I think.

[StirlingBlue]

Given how much ground he covered and his willingness to get forward I think he'll definitely be seen as the KDH backup not one of the deeper options.

In terms of best in each position (right now, not potential) I'd likely say:

10: KDH,Armstrong, Rohl, Hackney, Tim, Alcaraz
8: Garner, Hacney, Armstrong, Rohl, Tim, Norgaard, Alcaraz
6: Garner, Norgaard, Hackney, Tim, Armstrong, Rohl, Alcaraz

Suggests to be that we need to get rid of Alcaraz at a minimum, and likely also Tim if Rohl isn't needed as our starting RB.

[brap2]

I do wonder if a loan might be the best option…he’s quality this kid and physically he looks really surprising. Would love to see him open his stride up when he gets on the turn in the middle and see if he could become a real dominating box to box midfielder.

I think that stuff will only come with minutes though, and even if he is trusted, which I actually think he will be, he’s still not getting 2000-2500 minutes this year is he.

[Free Agent]

But where would you loan him to?
He’s too good for the Championship already and there’s not another league in Europe with the same physicality as the prem.

[StirlingBlue]

But where would you loan him to?
He’s too good for the Championship already and there’s not another league in Europe with the same physicality as the prem.

Does he start in CM for any of the newly promoted sides?

[Bumble]

Does he start in CM for any of the newly promoted sides?

Based on the fact Hull wanted Tim then I would say Hull.

[Surax]

Given how much ground he covered and his willingness to get forward I think he'll definitely be seen as the KDH backup not one of the deeper options.

In terms of best in each position (right now, not potential) I'd likely say:

10: KDH,Armstrong, Rohl, Hackney, Tim, Alcaraz
8: Garner, Hacney, Armstrong, Rohl, Tim, Norgaard, Alcaraz
6: Garner, Norgaard, Hackney, Tim, Armstrong, Rohl, Alcaraz

Suggests to be that we need to get rid of Alcaraz at a minimum, and likely also Tim if Rohl isn't needed as our starting RB.

Clearly you don't rate Alcaraz, and I don't massively either, but Tim over Alcaraz in the 10 is absolutely wild. Also Tim over Norgaard as an 8.

Personally I think as an out-and-out 6 Norgaard is the best option we have. Garner is the best 8, for sure. I also prefer Tim to Hackney in the 6.

All of that said, I agree we should be looking to shift Alcaraz. He's simply not needed.

[Matt1878]

Best 4 CM optioms (6/8) for me at the club are Garner, Nørgaard, Armstrong, Hackney (not in any order). I really want Armstrong in one of those 4 slots, he has had his loans, he is ready. In 4 years he will be 23 and a potential captain and worth a fortune. I'm all in on him.

Alcaraz is cover to rest KDH, no deeper. Rohl does his best work out wide or RB cover, Tim is probably surplus at the moment.

[StirlingBlue]

Clearly you don't rate Alcaraz, and I don't massively either, but Tim over Alcaraz in the 10 is absolutely wild. Also Tim over Norgaard as an 8.

Personally I think as an out-and-out 6 Norgaard is the best option we have. Garner is the best 8, for sure. I also prefer Tim to Hackney in the 6.

All of that said, I agree we should be looking to shift Alcaraz. He's simply not needed.

There’s lots of things I like about Alcaraz but mentally he can’t be trusted on the pitch, pretty much every appearance he loses the ball in really stupid dangerous positions. Moyes also loves a physical CAM so I’ve put Tim up there but honestly neither should be at the club if we can get money for them - especially as they only have short contracts.

I’ve not seen a lot of Norgaard but the way we use an eight is to run around and cover a lot of ground, I don’t think he has that in him.

[brap2]

But where would you loan him to?
He’s too good for the Championship already and there’s not another league in Europe with the same physicality as the prem.

Is he really *too good for the championship?*

Would be insane if so. 19 years old and an unfair advantage at championship level?

[Shogun]

Is he really *too good for the championship?*

Would be insane if so. 19 years old and an unfair advantage at championship level?

Look how Preston got on after he left

[AjaxAndy]

I don't know if Boro replaced Hackney or not, but he'd be a good fit there if not.

[Cantoffee]

One of the problems with being the backup to KDH is that KDH almost never comes off.

He'll be playing like absolute ass but Moyes trusts him to score and very few in the team have shown they will do that. So he will be played even when he is struggling.

Garner 100% will be ahead of him. Maybe Garner is played as the sitter and Armstrong can play beside him but as others have said, would expect Moyes will play Norgaard.

Its tough for him to get the minutes he needs to develop. It will be the same with Dibling (worse if we end up buying Grealish).

One of the challenges for us in developing players is that we need them to fill out the squad. We cant have someone who is good enough and loan them out -or we can do that but it makes the squad weaker. Big clubs dont need these talented players much so can send them on loan to develop as starters for season(s) at a time.

[StirlingBlue]

One of the challenges for us in developing players is that we need them to fill out the squad. We cant have someone who is good enough and loan them out -or we can do that but it makes the squad weaker. Big clubs dont need these talented players much so can send them on loan to develop as starters for season(s) at a time.

For once though we're absolutely stacked for midfield options so unless we're selling 2 of them or he's high in the pecking order he should be going out on loan.

Compare that to Dibling for example who we actually do need to be filling out the squad so a development loan is not an option.

[Lazarou II]

Best player at Derby, best player at PNE. Is another loan at a lower level really going to push him to next level?

If he goes on loan it has to be another PL club or similar level abroad although I am not sure about that myself either.

If I were Moyes I'd play him every week, he is going to be fantastic.

Who knows we might not even have him that long if one of the clubs of infinite wealth and spend come calling.