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Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:44 pm
by Audrey Horne
brap2 wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:33 am Does feel like every goal is scrutinised to the nth.

The Beto goal for example, not sure if it's just ally mccoist bleating in my ear but I just couldn't enjoy it. Desperate to look at every angle to find some reason to disallow.
He is really really bad on comms isn't he

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:11 pm
by superpull
Audrey Horne wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:43 pm I didn't expect it to be.... there was nothing wrong with it!
I was fully expecting it to be.

Not because I thought there was an infraction or anything. Just because I thought it would be the bleakest thing to happen

9 times out of 10 that seems to be what we witness at Everton. Absolute poster children for "what can go wrong will go wrong" at times.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:24 pm
by NickNack
AjaxAndy wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:33 pm As Moyes said in his press conference 'oh so they've spoken about that part but they've not mentioned the shirt pull? Well that's convenient isn't it?'.

They'll 100% not address the actual foul / fouls and will continue to repeat the offence for which the ref blew was deemed a clear and obvious error.
If that’s what the ref blew for then he made a clear and obvious error - as the penalty should have been for the two shirt pulls - and therefore VAR should have picked that up!!!

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:54 pm
by Goaljira
I quite like McCoist on co-commentary.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:58 pm
by TheRam
Same, he’s my favourite by a long way.

Just seems to be having a great time. I stopped wanting proper analysis a long time ago.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:26 pm
by brap2
Audrey Horne wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:44 pm He is really really bad on comms isn't he
I used to really enjoy his sort of naïve enthusiasm, but grates on me so much now.

After the Tark goal they had to cut his Comms because he has no awareness and was blabbering on.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:39 pm
by AjaxAndy
Osman > McCoist every day of the week.

Actually think Ossie might be the best co commentator around.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 5:40 pm
by AjaxAndy
superpull wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:11 pm I was fully expecting it to be.

Not because I thought there was an infraction or anything. Just because I thought it would be the bleakest thing to happen

9 times out of 10 that seems to be what we witness at Everton. Absolute poster children for "what can go wrong will go wrong" at times.
Exactly what I meant, it wasn't that I thought there was anything to disallow it for, but that they would view any contact as an excuse not to allow it. Purely because that's what generally seems to happen to us.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:04 pm
by MayorFarnham
By and large I find the less high profile a player they were the better they are on co coms. Probably because they have to put their back into it as they will be judged on the quality of what they offer rather than trade on their name.

I think football fans are willing to accept characters over competence more than fans of any other sport.

The quality of co coms on cricket, golf, motorsport and so on leaves football standing.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:10 pm
by AjaxAndy
MayorFarnham wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:04 pm By and large I find the less high profile a player they were the better they are on co coms. Probably because they have to put their back into it as they will be judged on the quality of what they offer rather than trade on their name.

I think football fans are willing to accept characters over competence more than fans of any other sport.

The quality of co coms on cricket, golf, motorsport and so on leaves football standing.
It does often leave me wondering if most have even bothered to watch much footy, especially people like Shearer on MOTD who I could swear blind hasn't even watched most of the games he's talking about apart from a few key highlights.

I want a co commentator that genuinely understands the teams they're talking about not just trot out the Ashley Young used to play with Dyche at Watford kind of thing that they think makes them sound knowledgeable when it has absolutely nothing to do with the game they're watching or the team that person is playing for.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:26 pm
by The Doc
Not many worse than Rio Ferdinand.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:49 am
by VBlue
Audrey Horne wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:44 pm He is really really bad on comms isn't he
I like him as a pundit. Pre-match, etc.

Whilst often provide good insight, he can be awful at times on commentary.

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:53 am
by Audrey Horne
VBlue wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:49 am I like him as a pundit. Pre-match, etc.

Whilst often provide good insight, he can be awful at times on commentary.
I think the commentary is so bad because he just talks shite ! Basically man down the pub shite.

He also repeats the same thing/words over and over.

ALso, ruins moments.... similar to the last min derby goal, cutting his mic cos he was about to bleat on about 'they want a foul'

You learn to shut up i think, as a commentator. And allow the fans to have the moment. Maybe he will learn when to speak?

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:42 pm
by Shogun

Re: VAR - Vastly Always Rubbish

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:53 pm
by brap2
His sister was in my year.