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Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:55 pm
by Cozzie
Surprised to Adama Traore high on that list.

Would proper love Ait Nouri here.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:59 pm
by brap2
TheRam wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:21 pm

Created the same amount of chances.

I’d say McNeil probably comes out better in this considering the lack of ball we have compared to Fulham.

Add his ability from set pieces I’d say McNeil is a better player.
I'm sure you would, many would agree.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:17 pm
by TheRam
Dwight McNeil.

For the many, not the few.

A proper left winger.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:45 pm
by AjaxAndy
TheRam wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 1:21 pm

Created the same amount of chances.

I’d say McNeil probably comes out better in this considering the lack of ball we have compared to Fulham.

Add his ability from set pieces I’d say McNeil is a better player.
@brap2 is currently sitting there with sparks and smoke coming out of his head as he tries to comprehend how this is remotely possible 🤣

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:53 pm
by Shogun
I’d rather see Ndiaye in the 10 but I also think McNeil is just too slow to be a PL winger, so it is what it is.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:57 pm
by American Evertonian
Shogun wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:53 pm I’d rather see Ndiaye in the 10 but I also think McNeil is just too slow to be a PL winger, so it is what it is.
Completely agree. I think the statistics of his chance creation is a bit misleading in how well he is playing. I think he has done pretty well, but he has had some games he was very poor in.

I would prefer him on the wing though and Ndiaye in the 10 as well.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:57 pm
by HANNU
as per my discussion with @Mouse mcneil in 80 games McNeil has 13 goals a ratio of 6.1 games a goal and 12 assists a ratio of 6.6 thats just 3.2 games per contribution

am genuinely shocked

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:19 pm
by Toddacelli
Differently effective.

Iwobi is the purist’s baller, poetry in motion going forward.

McNeil is a less sexy ball-carrier but has a few extra tools in his locker.

Overall this equates to similar outputs. Pick your favourites and fight to the death!

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:22 pm
by Cods
Just a shame that from that list we had 3 of the top 4 in our squad at one point.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:23 pm
by Cozzie
Cods wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:22 pm Just a shame that from that list we had 3 of the top 4 in our squad at one point.
Sadly managed and ruined, mainly, by Benitez and Lampard.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:30 pm
by Cods
Cozzie wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:23 pm Sadly managed and ruined, mainly, by Benitez and Lampard.
If they were here now I think we'd be in a much better position. Forced sales (haven't we suffered enough already from a few dodgy expensive buys) have cost us.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:42 pm
by brap2
He was mostly rubbish for us Iwobi.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 9:58 pm
by brap2
Dwight also certainly the right player for this manager, and some of you of course.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:08 am
by brap2
HANNU wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:57 pm as per my discussion with @Mouse mcneil in 80 games McNeil has 13 goals a ratio of 6.1 games a goal and 12 assists a ratio of 6.6 thats just 3.2 games per contribution

am genuinely shocked
I really shouldn't but

Across their careers they're pretty flat in terms of g+a per 90 mins.

0.26 g+a per 90 Vs 0.28 g+a per 90. One takes free kicks and corners, the other has played for better sides. So they're about even really.

Could go into passing and shot creation per 90 and stuff but I mean how many times have I had this convo about the lad. You either buy into that or you don't.

I know who id rather watch. I know who we're better off with under Dyche.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:20 pm
by Shogun
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