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Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:26 am
by StirlingBlue
Is it just me or do left footed players get way more stick for having a shit right foot than vice versa?

I never see anybody giving Coleman, Garner, Gueye, Doucoure, Beto, DCL etc stick for having an awful left foot

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:36 am
by Bluebridge
Coleman has a great left foot.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:49 am
by Gash
I think it's just in McNeil's case he looks so awkward with it, most players will still use their weaker foot to get a pass or shot in but McNeil will contort his whole body just to keep it on his left rather than use his right.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:58 am
by superpull
Gash wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:49 am I think it's just in McNeil's case he looks so awkward with it, most players will still use their weaker foot to get a pass or shot in but McNeil will contort his whole body just to keep it on his left rather than use his right.
Feel that's the case for a lot of lefties though. They always seem to look awkward.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:44 am
by Gash
superpull wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:58 am Feel that's the case for a lot of lefties though. They always seem to look awkward.
I think the the opposite, lefties can look very elegant, there's nothing sweeter than a Baines cross. I always wished I'd been a left handed cricketer, players like Gower looked so calm and relaxed playing the shots. But even compared to Mykolenko and Branthwaite McNeil looks very awkward.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:46 am
by StirlingBlue
Gash wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:44 am I think the the opposite, lefties can look very elegant, there's nothing sweeter than a Baines cross. I always wished I'd been a left handed cricketer, players like Gower looked so calm and relaxed playing the shots. But even compared to Mykolenko and Branthwaite McNeil looks very awkward.
To be fair, Branthwaite is pretty exceptionally two footed.

Baines was elegant but even he very rarely used his right foot and it didnt seem to be a big deal

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:06 pm
by Free Agent
Not a popular view, but if we could sell McNeil and get Elliot from the other side of the park - I’d be all in for that

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:28 pm
by brap2
No thank you on that.

Rumours heard on toffee TV that McNeil is maybe looking at a move away and unsure if he'll feature next year.

We have about 2 players so you'd have to be pretty sure of additions or pretty sure of the managers opinion of you to feel that way, but maybe?

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:57 pm
by StirlingBlue
brap2 wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:28 pm No thank you on that.

Rumours heard on toffee TV that McNeil is maybe looking at a move away and unsure if he'll feature next year.

We have about 2 players so you'd have to be pretty sure of additions or pretty sure of the managers opinion of you to feel that way, but maybe?
Entirely depends on how much we'd get for him too as it would cost £30m+ to replace his role in our squad (ability level, output & age).

Personally I think he'll become a key player under Moyes as he works very hard, has incredible stamina, great set pieces and contributes a lot of goals/assists which we need more of in the team. Seems like he ticks all of Moyes' boxes tbh

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:21 pm
by TheRam
He’s one of two wingers we have at the club currently so I’am calling nonsense on that rumour.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:17 am
by Bluebridge
StirlingBlue wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:46 am To be fair, Branthwaite is pretty exceptionally two footed.

Baines was elegant but even he very rarely used his right foot and it didnt seem to be a big deal
I think with Baines he was always on the left hand side, McNeil looks worse with his right when plays centrally or right wing, I’ve always said if McNeil plays it has to be on the left wing only to beat the full back and get crosses in.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:06 am
by 74Blue
Free Agent wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:06 pm Not a popular view, but if we could sell McNeil and get Elliot from the other side of the park - I’d be all in for that
No thank you. Harvey Elliott is nothing special and he's an absolute bellend to boot.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:33 am
by biziclop
Bluebridge wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:17 am I think with Baines he was always on the left hand side, McNeil looks worse with his right when plays centrally or right wing, I’ve always said if McNeil plays it has to be on the left wing only to beat the full back and get crosses in.
Arjen Robben only used his right foot for balance, even when he played on the right. It's perfectly manageable.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:45 am
by brap2
I think the thing is if you are really really really fucking good then yeah it doesn't matter.

Re: Dwight McNeil

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:06 am
by biziclop
brap2 wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:45 am I think the thing is if you are really really really fucking good then yeah it doesn't matter.
I'm just saying it's the wrong thing to fixate on. If you can make it work, you can make it work, and on the flip side you can be perfectly two-footed and still shit.