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Bob Sacamano wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:56 pm The nations league probably matters less than a friendly tbf

Other than it counts toward world ranking/ seeding for WC Draw.

Escalator wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:10 pm Other than it counts toward world ranking/ seeding for WC Draw.

So do friendlies

Outside of major summer tournaments, international football ceased to matter quite some time ago.

More concerned with how shite he's been so far this year for us.

Got to be something in how poorly rated he is outside of Everton tho.

brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:23 pm
Got to be something in how poorly rated he is outside of Everton tho.

Awful shout that

Escalator wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:10 pm Other than it counts toward world ranking/ seeding for WC Draw.

Means nothing. Could be seeded dead last and still make it to the QFs.

brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:23 pm
Got to be something in how poorly rated he is outside of Everton tho.

Leno is a fan!!

Fulham keeper Bernd Leno gave a savage reply when asked where he would place Jordan Pickford, during a blind ranking challenge conducted by Sky Sports Germany.

The German only had fourth, sixth and seventh to choose from as all the rest were already filled.

With a smirk, he brutally said “20!” before quickly retracting his statement with a laugh, adding, “I’m joking!” He could not contain his laughter, as a woman in the background could also be heard laughing.

Ultimately, Leno settled on placing Pickford in the seventh position. However, when asked to rank himself among the selected goalkeepers, Leno humorously removed Pickford from the list and replaced him with himself.

Raptor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:25 pm Leno is a fan!!

Fulham keeper Bernd Leno gave a savage reply when asked where he would place Jordan Pickford, during a blind ranking challenge conducted by Sky Sports Germany.

The German only had fourth, sixth and seventh to choose from as all the rest were already filled.

With a smirk, he brutally said “20!” before quickly retracting his statement with a laugh, adding, “I’m joking!” He could not contain his laughter, as a woman in the background could also be heard laughing.

Ultimately, Leno settled on placing Pickford in the seventh position. However, when asked to rank himself among the selected goalkeepers, Leno humorously removed Pickford from the list and replaced him with himself.

I don't know what any of that means

Kept a clean sheet and saved a pen last week didn't he?

Pickford is by far the least of our problems,

Some on here need to stop listening to the shite the media come out with

We would have been relegated many times over without him

Fuck me if we believed the media Branthwaite is worth 35p

Give ya heads a wobble

He isn’t above criticism like

Kerryblueboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:24 pm He isn’t above criticism like

No, but what's the point? He's still above average, and we don't have a better keeper. We certainly won't be splashing cash on a new keeper with holes all over the outfield.

brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:23 pm Got to be something in how poorly rated he is outside of Everton tho.

Who, that is worth listening to, rates him poorly? And what's their reasoning.

Cods wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:58 pm

Who, that is worth listening to, rates him poorly? And what's their reasoning.

He's rather universally thought of as a bit of a liability isn't he? Is that read incorrect? Who is the best voice on goalkeeping?

I think he was great for 2 maybe 3 years there which is an incredible run of form. He does seem to have regressed to his previous at the moment though I would say.

brap2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:45 pm He's rather universally thought of as a bit of a liability isn't he? Is that read incorrect? Who is the best voice on goalkeeping?

I think he was great for 2 maybe 3 years there which is an incredible run of form. He does seem to have regressed to his previous at the moment though I would say.

I'm genuinely interested in who thinks he's poor though, and I know I'm not exposed 24/7 to the media you guys get (especially Sky) so am probably a bit out of that loop. I'm not really interested in a Lee Dixon or talksport commentator though, but those with credibility and investment in accuracy.

I value the likes of those who manage teams Pickford represents (some of whom will have their own biases of course) and people that are employed on performance, etc, above ex players and commentators and the like that may need to add spice to a discussion, or align themselves with fanbases, in order to continue to receive a paycheck. 'Short armed vampire' type comments from only slightly more credile sources for some is money for old rope and muddies perception and unfortunately becomes, as @Toddacelli mentioned, the memorable narrative for most.

On Pickford himself, I think perhaps the current period, and the bad spell a few years back are more the exception to the rule, rather than the rule itself.

To have such a sustained level of strong performances over the intervening years suggests this. Everyone can have blips, of their own or others making, below their usual level,but to be consistently good for so long suggests that's his level, for me anyway.