The NSNO Everton Forums

Bluedylan1 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:51 pm I think it's subjective whether you find something dreadful, so you can't really tell someone whether it's dreadful or not. It's an opinion.

TheRam wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:31 pm Is the football that bad?

Why do people completely ignore the off the ball stuff and the way we defend.

Off the ball we are great and have been all season bar the odd game.

Defensively we are one of the best teams in the league.

Isn’t there joy to watch the team you support be so solid off the ball?

For me, this is the best football we’ve had since the best days of moyes and parts of silva in terms of how we are structurally.

I’ve seen too many Everton teams be so easy to score against. When we lead games we very rarely don’t win. That’s a huge improvement on what we’ve seen for most of the Moshiri era.

Never cared much for Carlo. Was very much get it to your best players and hope for the best.

TheRam wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 4:31 pm Is the football that bad?

Why do people completely ignore the off the ball stuff and the way we defend.

Off the ball we are great and have been all season bar the odd game.

Defensively we are one of the best teams in the league.

Isn’t there joy to watch the team you support be so solid off the ball?

For me, this is the best football we’ve had since the best days of moyes and parts of silva in terms of how we are structurally.

I’ve seen too many Everton teams be so easy to score against. When we lead games we very rarely don’t win. That’s a huge improvement on what we’ve seen for most of the Moshiri era.

Never cared much for Carlo. Was very much get it to your best players and hope for the best.

superpull wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:11 am You say "just surviving", but our points total has us joint 12th, 19 points clear of relegation with 2 very winnable games coming up

Next Friday we may have won more points than the 10th placed team and be 22 clear of the drop.

I'm not sure we both share the same meaning for the word "just"

Mouse wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:29 pm Look at the season as a whole. Beat Luton (possible) and Sheffield Utd (probable) and we finish on 50 (FIFTY!) real points. Prior to that, we have gone 59, 39, 36, how is that not progress in the right direction? Also, as I've mentioned before, we cannot know how much better we would have played wihout the ponts reductions and the consequent fears and doubts this added.

He's not my choice, some of the football has been excruciating (caveat, mental drag of points deductions) but I can't honestly say he hasn't exceded expectations and done a pretty incredible job. I do not for one minute doubt there are better managers out there, nor that there are managers who could squeeze a bit more out of the players or have us play with a bit more style. The problem is very few of them are available, of those few would consider a basket case like us, of those we could afford even less. At which point we move into medium to high risk appointments.

Like it or not, we need Dyche to settle us for at least one, maybe two seasons to put us in a position where we are financially more robust and a more attractive propostion to alternative managers. Or, we need new owners with deep pockets prepared to support a new manager. Right now, there is little hope of that happening. Reality is a bitch.

Gash wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:54 pm Think we'd be mad to get rid of him just now and if the new owners (whoever they are) were to get rid of him to try and bring in some "big" name then the alarm bells would be ringing straight away for me that as a club we've learned nothing over the last 7 or 8 years. So far as extending his contract, if we have another season of turmoil like this I wouldn't blame him if he walked away even if there was an offer. We've tried it all over the years, the big names, the next big names, the has beens, the fire fighters, why wouldn't we give a further chance to someone who's managed us through this

In a season that's been full of turmoil he's someone who managed to guide us to a potential gross 50 points and beaten Liverpool at Goodison for the first time in donkeys years, there's been some terrible dips as well and he deserves criticism for that but he turned that around too along with the players. He is what he is and the football will never be that pretty but some people don't like Dyche the person so don't like Dyche the manager either so won't ever accept him or give him much credit. I don't care about his voice, his political leanings, his smart arse replies to journos, (some of them deserve it) his man management style, I don't even mind the football if it gets us to 50+ points next season and we see some progress which won't be an easy task with the finances. And next season could well see more points coming off and will certainly see a restriction in spending, hardly the best set up to propose to a new manager.

A bit like when Moyes was here, maybe it'll turn out to be a good thing that we couldn't afford to fire him so gave him time rather than have the umpteenth reset in recent years, so far Ancelotti and him are the only two that had any semblance of stability and 'success' (you could argue Allardyce too but I'd rather forget he was ever here) even if success for us at the moment is avoiding last day relegation battles.

Shogun wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 9:00 pm *Prays for relegation*