Relegation Battle

[Sir Stealth]

Do feel like it’s our time to go this season. We lose quality year on year while shopping in the bargain bin. The defensive solidity of last year seems to have vanished and I’m not sure many of those players have the stomach for a relegation battle this season. Could easily go without a win in the first 10 games or so and wouldn’t put it past the FA to give us another points deduction

Grim times. Would snap your hand off if you offered me 17th place right now for our final league position


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[AndSeel]

Think we go this time

Seeing this makes me confident we won't.

[Paddockoldie]

Talking of heads going and here we are, the doom loop. We're three games in. Shit games admittedly but up until the 86th minute we played better than anytime in recent memory

[sam of the south]

Talking of heads going and here we are, the doom loop. We're three games in. Shit games admittedly but up until the 86th minute we played better than anytime in recent memory

He’s just thrown them under the bus, though, without acknowledging their previous dominant performance, further adding to the gut punch of the 3 goal collapse.

[AjaxAndy]

I don't think the previous 86 minutes matter when you throw the game away like that. All that matters is the complete and utter gutless capitulation.

I agree I'd like to have seen Dyche take some responsibility for not subbing tired legs, but I wouldn't be praising that team for anything in the immediate aftermath.

Over the course of the week I'd be concentrating on what they did well and try to build on that, but those players needed calling out for what was a completely unacceptable shitting of the bed. Tired legs aren't an excuse for mental capitulation.

[Fynci]

Part of me thinks it's way too early for a thread like this. The other part thinks we should just create a new sticky every season.

[sam of the south]

I don't think the previous 86 minutes matter when you throw the game away like that. All that matters is the complete and utter gutless capitulation.

I agree I'd like to have seen Dyche take some responsibility for not subbing tired legs, but I wouldn't be praising that team for anything in the immediate aftermath.

Over the course of the week I'd be concentrating on what they did well and try to build on that, but those players needed calling out for what was a completely unacceptable shitting of the bed. Tired legs aren't an excuse for mental capitulation.

I completely disagree.

Those 86 minutes have to be clung onto at a time like this, and then used as a platform to launch from going forward, because we actually created chances, scored goals, and played effective football through the lines, something which a Dyche side has failed to do the vast majority of the time.

Reproduce that kind of performance regularly, and we will win more than we lose.

Just focussing on this intangible mental collapse, some of which Dyche should take responsibilty for (but is refusing to, as usual) is just going to pour negative fuel onto an already raging negative fire.

[AjaxAndy]

I completely disagree.

Those 86 minutes have to be clung onto at a time like this, and then used as a platform to launch from going forward, because we actually created chances, scored goals, and played effective football through the lines, something which a Dyche side has failed to do the vast majority of the time.

Reproduce that kind of performance regularly, and we will win more than we lose.

Just focussing on this intangible mental collapse, some of which Dyche should take responsibilty for (but is refusing to, as usual) is just going to pour negative fuel onto an already raging negative fire.

I definitely agree we have to use it as a platform to build, but in the immediate aftermath I don't think anything matters beyond the last 9 minutes.

If they can't get that winning mentality then it doesn't matter how well you play, and they need strips tearing off them for what happened.

Then draw a line under it and focus on the positives and build on it as the week goes on.

[superpull]

Do feel like it’s our time to go this season. We lose quality year on year while shopping in the bargain bin. The defensive solidity of last year seems to have vanished and I’m not sure many of those players have the stomach for a relegation battle this season. Could easily go without a win in the first 10 games or so and wouldn’t put it past the FA to give us another points deduction

Grim times. Would snap your hand off if you offered me 17th place right now for our final league position


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N'Diaye is not a drop in quality.
Our best defender is yet to start playing.

But I said a month ago I'd happily take safety with a handful of games to go as a reasonable expectation

[MayorFarnham]

Maybe an international break is just what we need.

[Toddacelli]

Think we go this time

I thought that before the transfer window and before the first 85 mins of the Bournemouth game.

We’ve added attacking players and played some good stuff. I am just on the side of believing we can stay up this time.

[sam of the south]

I definitely agree we have to use it as a platform to build, but in the immediate aftermath I don't think anything matters beyond the last 9 minutes.

If they can't get that winning mentality then it doesn't matter how well you play, and they need strips tearing off them for what happened.

Then draw a line under it and focus on the positives and build on it as the week goes on.

Hard to get a winning mentality when we’re losing so heavily the last few weeks.

[Free Agent]

Maybe an international break is just what we need.

Can we have one every week?

[MayorFarnham]

Added pressure of last season at Goodison isn't going to sit well with these bottle jobs.

[Evertonian in NC]

The arse-end of the Table is full of dogshit (again). It won't take much to survive (again).