Iliman Ndiaye

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brap2
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Just don't think he should be playing left wing and running the ball like he's adama traore.

It has improved us because simply having him on the ball at all improves us, but there's an opportunity to me do so much more with these attacking players. Having Ndiaye run himself into the ground ploughing line furrows into blind alleys so we can win a throw in and gain yardage is effective but it's a shame.
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We don't have the squad depth or the manager nous to be able to experiment much with him at the moment, hopefully that will change sooner rather than later, good to see the flashes of real quality from him though, some outrageous skills at times.
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Maybe, but McNeil is doing great in the number ten and ndiaye is doing great out wide so it’s not that big an issue.

Enjoying watching them both.
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I actually do quite like him on the left, cutting in. He seems like he has the skillset to be a real goalscoring threat if we get the pieces around him working more effectively (probably under the next manager, realistically).

I know he played in the 10 and also up front as a second striker for Sheff U and was a handful in both roles.
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Loses the ball sometimes when dribbling which isn't a huge issue out wide but he's done it a few times in our half too which has led to the opposition gaining possession in dangerous areas... Can't help feel this could be an issue if he played centrally as although I absolutely love his willingness to go at players every time he gets the ball there's maybe not the rounded game in him to know when to do this and when not to.

He's just a street footballer, don't think he'll ever be the type of player that knows when to play with a full picture view that he'd need in the middle. Love him out wide though, just a total menace.
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I think he enjoys the space out wide he has the skill level and pace to go past defenders one on one….move him inside that space becomes more limited as he goes past one there’ll always be more players….the technical ability then becomes does he know when to pass and move for the return( and are our players bright enough to notice that)….is there an end product? Or does he run into blind alleys and lose it ? As there’s no movement/options around him.
We need more players of his capabilities in the team before we see the true worth of Ndiaye I feel.
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He’s got some great skills to beat a man, and he’s decently fast but doesn’t really have breakaway pace so he ends up having to beat people twice. I see Brap’s point that in the 10 he can receive the ball on the turn and best utilise his skills.

I’m surprised we haven’t tried Harrison left as a head down winger, Ndiaye in the 10 taking the ball on the turn and running beyond DCL and then using McNeil coming off the right where he can step in onto his left foot.

I guess it requires a right back that can bomb on and fill the space McNeil vacates, I’d like to see it tried when Patterson is fit
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TheRam wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:15 am Maybe, but McNeil is doing great in the number ten and ndiaye is doing great out wide so it’s not that big an issue.

Enjoying watching them both.
I don't think he is tbh, I know that's not going to be a very popular opinion but I don't think he is
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brap2 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:43 pm I don't think he is tbh, I know that's not going to be a very popular opinion but I don't think he is
You’re trying way too hard with this.
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TheRam wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:59 pm You’re trying way too hard with this.
I know he's scored and he's created some chances from like second phase of set pieces and stuff, but he's not involved in build up, he can't keep up with breaks, he's not getting close to Dom or Ndiaye, he's losing the ball a LOT, he's basically...he's basically sigurdsson right now but in a purple patch.

He is playing well I'm not saying he's playing poorly, but because he is who he is, i don't think it helps the team having the ball go through him so much.
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brap2 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:06 pm I know he's scored and he's created some chances from like second phase of set pieces and stuff, but he's not involved in build up, he can't keep up with breaks, he's not getting close to Dom or Ndiaye, he's losing the ball a LOT, he's basically...he's basically sigurdsson right now but in a purple patch.

He is playing well I'm not saying he's playing poorly, but because he is who he is, i don't think it helps the team having the ball go through him so much.
Ye that's not true.
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I'm sort of with Andy in that he's great drawing players in and moving through their lines, but if he loses possession which he does quite a bit. It leaves us exposed to a counter. Against the likes of the shite or City that would be fatal
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brap2 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:06 pm I know he's scored and he's created some chances from like second phase of set pieces and stuff, but he's not involved in build up, he can't keep up with breaks, he's not getting close to Dom or Ndiaye, he's losing the ball a LOT, he's basically...he's basically sigurdsson right now but in a purple patch.

He is playing well I'm not saying he's playing poorly, but because he is who he is, i don't think it helps the team having the ball go through him so much.
He’s scoring, he’s setting up goals, he’s creating chances.

Genuinely one of the best midfielders in the league in terms of creating chances (not just set pieces) in the league.

May not be a long term thing but you’re being a bit daft here
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The Doc wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:35 pm Ye that's not true.
Which bit?
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TheRam wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:40 pm He’s scoring, he’s setting up goals, he’s creating chances.

Genuinely one of the best midfielders in the league in terms of creating chances (not just set pieces) in the league.

May not be a long term thing but you’re being a bit daft here
Listen I get it and I'm not going to like die on this hill, and tbh we won't ever know because the manager is obsessed with playing him, but I have my opinion and I urge you to watch the next few games with this opinion in mind.

Is he helping the side or is he being good in very specific situations. Is he creating chances or is he pretty much doing set pieces stuff in the next phase. Is he helping keep the ball up the pitch or would you rather Ndiaye have the ball there? Is he getting close to Ndiaye or Dom or is he miles away puffing away?

Outside of the odd long shot and whipped cross, I don't think he's helping us in there. I'm sorry but there we are!
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