Dyche - HE'S GONE

[kramer]

Think Moyes could be a very good technical director.

Would love to see Potter have his second chance here but the only way that’d be possible is with a stable ownership situation.

[74Blue]

Think Moyes could be a very good technical director.

Would love to see Potter have his second chance here but the only way that’d be possible is with a stable ownership situation.

I think that Potter right now would be anabsolute car crash. Just look at some of the utter turgid shite that we are serving up week in, week out, then imagine the useless cunts trying to adapt to the tactics of a new coach, with a completely different philosophy and an actual plan.

If we were eve going to consider Potter, we would have to accept that it's going to take time, rime that we don't have.

[Toddacelli]

Desperately needing to move forward as a club and constantly discussing Moyes v Dyche is depressing.

[AjaxAndy]

I don’t particularly like him tbh. I nothing him more than anything.

I just thought I was misremembering some genuinely excellent footy we played under him. How you can describe it as decent is a bit mad but it’s your opinion.

I just don't think it was ever spell binding, sometimes it'd be really poor, for a while it was enjoyable to watch but it never had me on the edge of my seat. Maybe excellent and decent are just dependant on if you're comparing to the best teams out there or against how we played for a fairly large part of his tenure.

I'll give Moyes his dues though as I really appreciated him when he was here, did a great job I don't want to take away from that.

[AjaxAndy]

He's gone up a level of player here and not improved on his Burnley days though. In fact, his worst time at Burnley was when he tried to replace some of the cloggers with footballers in Weghorst and Cornet.

Dyche has shown throughout his career where his ceiling is, this "he's never had this level of player" feels like the arguments people in football used to use to make out Allardyce was actually a brilliant manager held back by the type of teams he managed.

He has better players but not like Moyes did at West Ham... I'm genuinely sure that if we had Rice, Paquetta, Kudus and Bowen right now, along with Souchek and their right back we'd be absolutely nowhere near the bottom of the table.

Appreciate I spelt some of them wrong as I'm not used to having to write West Ham player's names

Dyche is what he is, but we're also a complete basket case of a club with late 30s championship / league one standard full backs, no investment and multiple points deductions... I don't really feel comparing him to Moyes who was working under totally different circumstances when he achieved success at West Ham is particularly fair.

But anyway you'd take Moyes back right now, I wouldn't... It's fine to disagree on this, I'd imagine the fan base would be pretty split by this topic.

[Escalator]

If I recall correctly his departure from us was pretty acrimonious, accused of being a rat running down his contract whilst he had the United job in his pocket.

. “It's fine to disagree on this, I'd imagine the fan base would be pretty split by this topic”

[777Kidnappings]

Think most fans would be happy to swap dyche for moyes. The problem would be 3 months down the line when nowt has changed and moyes has 3 years on his contract rather dyche having 3 months

Personally if you want to compare jobs its not everton a decade ago or West ham spending lots of money. It's Sunderland. I think moyes would do worse than dyche has done these last 2 seasons (obviously we have no points so no one would do worse this season)

What a miserable debate though. The frightening thing is moyes would probably be our first choice

[Audrey Horne]

We played some fucking brilliant football at times under Moyes. Some unreal games to be at Goodison for and brilliant memories.

One thing I remember is never feeling out of a game. Even losing 1-0 with 5 mins left I always thought we could come back .... we scored a lot of last min goals and the team were so together.

However never winning away to top 6. Absolute turgid crap alot of the time and tbh footy has moved on. Surely?

It baffles me that this is a potential option.

There's millions of options.

[Indiantoffee75]

Need to sack of this shite with bringing back Moyes. The short sightedness of this club (aside from Carlo) seems to appoint premierleague managers.

About time the club casted it's net further afield. You have decent bundesliga managers in Dino Toppmoller, Oli Werner or someone like Sergio Conceicao who left Porto in the summer. Probably others out there.

[Kerryblueboy]

There aren’t millions of options though I would love a coach who would get us playing proper football but under the current circumstances that would be impossible imagine the cries from the stands when we are playing patient build up football to knock it long or play it forward more quickly it’s a bit of a poison chalice at the moment so would need a big character to survive here

[Stumpy]

We played some fucking brilliant football at times under Moyes. Some unreal games to be at Goodison for and brilliant memories.

One thing I remember is never feeling out of a game. Even losing 1-0 with 5 mins left I always thought we could come back .... we scored a lot of last min goals and the team were so together.

However never winning away to top 6. Absolute turgid crap alot of the time and tbh footy has moved on. Surely?

It baffles me that this is a potential option.

There's millions of options.

Yeah, always grateful for the way he steadied the ship after walter smith and made us hard to beat and playing some good stuff on times.
However i was done with him after the semi final defeat to the shite, his cowardice cost us a place in the final.
One up on top and looking dangerous, i said to my nephew the only thing that can stop us now is ourselves, meaning moyes.
Sure enough we take our foot off the gas become more defensive and the inevitable happens

[sam of the south]

I think I dislike him more than Allardyce

[sam of the south]

No one comes close to dethroning Benitez, though

[Shogun]

Huge game for him against Palace

[TheRam]

Gets a lot of credit for the changes he made for me.

Maybe the subs could have been better, but every manager in the world brings Harrison on for a lad making his first premier league start.

Shouldn’t be a debate about him tonight. Move on to palace and get the win.