Jack Grealish

[April]

I agree with a few comments on here: his best days are behind him, and we shouldn’t have come back for more. I’d much rather have George and Dibling as starting wide players. If there’s a chance to get him off the books we should take it, and use the savings to make sensible squad additions in January. A million quid a month for a player who doesn’t score, assist or always turn up?

[Cods]

Bit of column A, bit of column B.

There's not much liking his input this season, sure don't have to be thinking it's a conspiracy to think the heirarchy aren't happy since his return and are pressuring for more value. It's what they all do.

Bodies though.

Hope for both reasons that he is OK and turns it around.

[Bluedylan1]

It sounds to me, listening to some of Moyes' very brief comments and bits and pieces coming out in the press from Ornstein etc that the situation with Grealish is requiring more of an intervention type of response from the club, rather than just purely punishment.

If this was just a one off incident, they'd have said something like ''Jack let himself down, he's been disciplined accordingly and he'll be back in the squad at x time''.

But it sounds like a deeper lifestyle issue they are trying to address with him, and they're using a more enlightened, progressive approach to tackling it. My evidence for that is that it's a club decision, not an angry reactionary decision by a manager who has been affronted. Also Moyes isn't castigating him in the media, which would have been the old school managerial norm. They are also speaking to Man City about it. Moyes has also pointedly said ''there's a way back'' for Grealish.

I'm not letting Grealish off with it, because he has let himself and others down (more than once), but it feels to me like the club is almost approaching this like a mental health/addiction issue, perhaps using some of their learnings from other situations with players in the recent past.

[TheRam]

If we were using learnings of the past we wouldn’t have signed him again.

[Bluedylan1]

If we were using learnings of the past we wouldn’t have signed him again.

Well obviously, but that's a completely different conversation. He's here now and we're dealing with the situation now as it's presented. It's possible that this behaviour has escalated in his second spell.

Some of the language in the media and lack of public comment/criticism around his actions is giving the strong whiff of an organisation trying to deal with a deeper lying issue behind closed doors.

[Bumble]

Absolutely criminal he is trousering over a million a month out of club that can ill afford it and delivering nothing productive as well as ill discipline in return.

Yes he is at fault but so are the club for sanctioning the move. The professionalism of the club over recent years doesn't lead me to believe they'll have built some financial safeguards into his loan contract either.

[MPLS Toffee]

When Moyes was asked if there was a way back for Jack, there was an obvious hesitation before he answered. He knows Grealish Everton career is over. He just gave a good PR answer.

Good riddance. I dont feel sorry for millionaires. Do your job or fuck off forever.

[blueToffee]

Once again, the spectre of Jack Grealish’s absence loomed large over Everton. And once again, they coped just fine without him.

Grealish has now missed three games for Everton, starting with the trip to Arsenal on October 24. The attacking midfielder was out on the evening of Monday, October 19 after attending the Pride of Britain awards and watched Paris Saint-Germain’s 4-2 Champions League win over Barcelona at a Cheshire pub alongside fellow players, including Jordan Pickford, the following day.

Sources say Pickford left the pub early before heading home and did not breach club discipline. He has played in all three of Everton’s matches since. The squad had been given a day off that Wednesday, so players were allowed to make use of their free time as they saw fit, within reason.

Pickford, according to sources, was only there a short while, but Grealish remained.

It remains to be seen how the situation develops from here. Moyes has always spoken positively in public about Grealish but outlined expectations to him on both occasions before he signed. The message was that certain standards were expected and it would be a tightly run ship.

The same will be reiterated again in light of recent events and will be seen as a prerequisite if he is to work his way back into favour.

[Jamokachi]

When Moyes was asked if there was a way back for Jack, there was an obvious hesitation before he answered. He knows Grealish Everton career is over. He just gave a good PR answer.

Good riddance. I dont feel sorry for millionaires. Do your job or fuck off forever.

Well aren't you a pleasant sort

[Paddockoldie]

Once again, the spectre of Jack Grealish’s absence loomed large over Everton. And once again, they coped just fine without him.

Grealish has now missed three games for Everton, starting with the trip to Arsenal on October 24. The attacking midfielder was out on the evening of Monday, October 19 after attending the Pride of Britain awards and watched Paris Saint-Germain’s 4-2 Champions League win over Barcelona at a Cheshire pub alongside fellow players, including Jordan Pickford, the following day.

Sources say Pickford left the pub early before heading home and did not breach club discipline. He has played in all three of Everton’s matches since. The squad had been given a day off that Wednesday, so players were allowed to make use of their free time as they saw fit, within reason.

Pickford, according to sources, was only there a short while, but Grealish remained.

It remains to be seen how the situation develops from here. Moyes has always spoken positively in public about Grealish but outlined expectations to him on both occasions before he signed. The message was that certain standards were expected and it would be a tightly run ship.

The same will be reiterated again in light of recent events and will be seen as a prerequisite if he is to work his way back into favour.

I still agree with the poster, who said why did nobody take pics or video of him, or with Pickford and blast it on social media. Our society is obsessed with this shit, because we wouldn't have seen some poor guy mauled to death by a tiger, if some good soul thought to film it for us

[Lazarou II]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Stumpy]

It sounds to me, listening to some of Moyes' very brief comments and bits and pieces coming out in the press from Ornstein etc that the situation with Grealish is requiring more of an intervention type of response from the club, rather than just purely punishment.

If this was just a one off incident, they'd have said something like ''Jack let himself down, he's been disciplined accordingly and he'll be back in the squad at x time''.

But it sounds like a deeper lifestyle issue they are trying to address with him, and they're using a more enlightened, progressive approach to tackling it. My evidence for that is that it's a club decision, not an angry reactionary decision by a manager who has been affronted. Also Moyes isn't castigating him in the media, which would have been the old school managerial norm. They are also speaking to Man City about it. Moyes has also pointedly said ''there's a way back'' for Grealish.

I'm not letting Grealish off with it, because he has let himself and others down (more than once), but it feels to me like the club is almost approaching this like a mental health/addiction issue, perhaps using some of their learnings from other situations with players in the recent past.

Yeah i think there's more to this than getting tanked up and missing training

[MPLS Toffee]

Well aren't you a pleasant sort

I'm just fully fed up with people taking advantage of the club.

Jack can say all the right things but his actions say he doesn't care about his teammates or the club. Am I wrong?

[TheRam]

Fourth game in a row where his best mate Callum Robinson hasn’t been in the Cardiff squad.

[chang]

Pride of Britain he promised that 12 year lad who won the child of courage for saving his family a game with his mum and friends in his executive box, hope that still happens.

Guess Everton will do whats best for Everton and whilst it was comforting all the warm words Jack has said about Everton, it does worringly seem talk is cheap.

He's not our future, I'd like to see him back to his best for us of course, especially now KDH is in the form he is, but likewise want to see George and Dibbling make it