brap2 wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2026 11:22 am
No there’s no chance of change.
I think we’re probably in the foot hills of discontent against ownership as well, as we could all reasonably see us blowing this summers funds, find ourselves for one reason or another in 17th come January and make a change.
At which point we’ll be worried about ‘having the right players’ for [insert coach who isn’t a dinosaur], and will probably opt for…honestly I don’t know but risk averse choices will present themselves (nuno? frank? frank lamp? Vitor?) and we go again from step one on the ladder.
Obviously other scenarios are available.
Yes, your scenario is entirely possible.
It's also gonna be kind boring on here all summer. People are gonna be talking about ''when are they sacking him?'' and various potential replacements endlessly, with absolutely no chance of him going anywhere.
And don't get me wrong, that's not me criticising people who want him gone. There are plenty of valid reasons to make a change. I'll be fine if they make a change, as long it's a good change. There's just a tiny percentage chance of it happening this summer.
Obviously the vast majority are thinking in one way at the moment, but I think it's always useful to try to imagine what the case for the other side is and what the Kinnear and the Friedkins might be thinking in terms of keeping him.
I imagine the board's thinking would be something like ''we've said we're in a two summer window rebuild of the first team squad. The second of those windows is coming up. We were on the cusp of Europe just a few weeks ago. Yes, the season fell off terribly in the last few weeks, but if we can have a good transfer window and improve the first team and squad considerably, then there's no reason we can't get into Europe next season''.
Some version of that is probably the case for the defence. And whether people agree or not, that's not a deranged line of thinking either. There's a world where that happens. I'd probably say that's similarly likely to us sacking Moyes in 17th in the first half of next season, as you talked about. Both are completely reasonable, plausible scenarios.
So the recruitment has to be really excellent. And that's obviously a concern. Last summer was a bit of a scattergun window, and imo they can be forgiven for that, given the time constraints and the number of people going in and out of the club. This summer there are absolutely no excuses. People in recruitment have been in post for a year. The weaknesses and gaps in the squad are glaring.
The thing with Kinnear and the Friedkins is that we don't really know how they operate in regards to Everton yet. We know bits and pieces from Roma with the Friedkins, but Serie A is a very different scenario to the Prem. We're filling in a lot of the blanks. We have hardly any datapoints to really use to predict future behaviour.
They've appointed Moyes as a safe pair of hands, and that's worked to some degree. They appear to have got the finances under control and have us on a much better footing there, which is much appreciated, and they've appointed a whole new number of heads of department last summer. Most of those appointments won't be able to be judged for a number of years because of the nature of their jobs (youth development, financial growth etc). Beyond that though we don't really know how they respond to fan dissatifaction or a manager having a terrible run of results.
The only things I can really go off are Kinnear in December saying we won't be spending money in the January window (and we didn't), and then him saying effectively we won't be changing the manager last week. It seems they use very limited, pointed communication.
So yeah, they'd better get the summer recruitment right, or we'll go from being a thoroughly pissed off fanbase to quite an angry fanbase very quickly at the start of next season.
