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Last few games have probably been a reversion to the mean. Results have outperformed most underlying metrics until recently.
Overall not too happy with the signings and how they've got on. Definitely some things about Moyes I dont like.
He's here for another year though, but hope we start looking at what's next if we dont make progress next season.
Overall not too happy with the signings and how they've got on. Definitely some things about Moyes I dont like.
He's here for another year though, but hope we start looking at what's next if we dont make progress next season.
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I think that's fair.
If you had an asset you had recently acquired valued in the billions would you want to preserve it for the immediate until you finalise what direction you want to take or take a risk on maximising it but widen the margin of error of blowing a hole right through it.
As a football fan you want the latter but as a serious business decision you might favour the former.
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Next season is the one for me to decide whether we should move on from Moyes based on performance, new signings, integrating or moving the signings we made in the summer on. If I’d known we’d be where we are now this time last season I’d probably have taken it but now I feel we could have done better if with just a couple of tweaks. More than anything the lack of a RB has screwed us big time
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JOB has won 91.2% of his duels when attempted to be taken on (5th best in the league) - Moyes will see this as a massive success, he won't care he's only got 1 assist.NickNack wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2026 5:18 pm Next season is the one for me to decide whether we should move on from Moyes based on performance, new signings, integrating or moving the signings we made in the summer on. If I’d known we’d be where we are now this time last season I’d probably have taken it but now I feel we could have done better if with just a couple of tweaks. More than anything the lack of a RB has screwed us big time
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It would be a solid base to build from. If we had a right sided forward capable of doing something offensively on his own and didn't need any support.
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I think this is the issue people had with Moyes towards the end of his first time around here. Whenever the moment is there to be seized then it just never happened. We always came up short. We've had a mixed season and the moment things got real we've taken 3 points from our last 5 matches and failed to handle the pressure.
You add in the two early cup defeats, the dismal form at the Hill Dickinson, the handling of some new signings (Dibling/Rohl) and the reluctance to really be positive (JOB at RB) then he makes it difficult to really get behind him.
We've been in contention for Europe for a while but as it stands today, we're as close to 6th as we are 16th.
I think the only realistic target for us this summer is Iraola but if that isn't a possibiity then I could probably stomach another season of Moyes. Unless he has us top 6 in January and has avoided an embarrassing cup defeat then then plan should be for his departure in the summer rather than any talks of an extension.
You add in the two early cup defeats, the dismal form at the Hill Dickinson, the handling of some new signings (Dibling/Rohl) and the reluctance to really be positive (JOB at RB) then he makes it difficult to really get behind him.
We've been in contention for Europe for a while but as it stands today, we're as close to 6th as we are 16th.
I think the only realistic target for us this summer is Iraola but if that isn't a possibiity then I could probably stomach another season of Moyes. Unless he has us top 6 in January and has avoided an embarrassing cup defeat then then plan should be for his departure in the summer rather than any talks of an extension.
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I think that's a fair, although there would appear to be a bit of a disconnect between Moyes and the transfer committee, so something has to give - I just pray with don't give in to his demands, if he dies stay.Shogun wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2026 6:43 pm I think this is the issue people had with Moyes towards the end of his first time around here. Whenever the moment is there to be seized then it just never happened. We always came up short. We've had a mixed season and the moment things got real we've taken 3 points from our last 5 matches and failed to handle the pressure.
You add in the two early cup defeats, the dismal form at the Hill Dickinson, the handling of some new signings (Dibling/Rohl) and the reluctance to really be positive (JOB at RB) then he makes it difficult to really get behind him.
We've been in contention for Europe for a while but as it stands today, we're as close to 6th as we are 16th.
I think the only realistic target for us this summer is Iraola but if that isn't a possibiity then I could probably stomach another season of Moyes. Unless he has us top 6 in January and has avoided an embarrassing cup defeat then then plan should be for his departure in the summer rather than any talks of an extension.
It feels like we have a genuine opportunity to push on and whilst we stay with Moyes it'll be more like treading water until we decide to push off
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If it wasn't Iraola, it could have been Potter or Thomas Frank.
We sometimes don't see what the downside could have been with some of our favourites.
We sometimes don't see what the downside could have been with some of our favourites.
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One win in seven at the buisness end of the season, substitute inertia every match.
Not a great end to the season.
Not a great end to the season.
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I think the biggest disappointment for me is Moyes has clearly prioritized points above all else and yet the chances are we will end up well enough short of Europe and similar pts totals to last season.
Not exactly focused on the development of some well thought of young players in Dibling, Aznou, Armstrong, Iroegbunam, and Rohl.
If he isn't going to worry about developing those players then he needs to get results.
Maybe he'll prove right about those players in keeping them on the bench but Im not convinced.
Not exactly focused on the development of some well thought of young players in Dibling, Aznou, Armstrong, Iroegbunam, and Rohl.
If he isn't going to worry about developing those players then he needs to get results.
Maybe he'll prove right about those players in keeping them on the bench but Im not convinced.
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I think if the international break hadn't happened we'd be sitting top 6.
Unfortunately it came at the wrong time for us and we lost all momentum.
These are the fine margins that separate success and failure at this level, and we don't really have the team to fall on the right side of those small margins.
Unfortunately it came at the wrong time for us and we lost all momentum.
These are the fine margins that separate success and failure at this level, and we don't really have the team to fall on the right side of those small margins.
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Feels like we are being gaslit by him into accepting our lot. Plucky Everton grateful to not be battling relegation, just falling short of Europe.
Very similar to his last spell in charge.
All very safe.
Very similar to his last spell in charge.
All very safe.
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Fine with how this season has gone.
You don’t just get over the last four years overnight.
It takes time to be a proper football club.
New owners, new manager, new recruitment team, new stadium.
Next season is different though. Expectations across the board for me and heads should roll if we don’t qualify for Europe and are more competitive in the cups as well.
You don’t just get over the last four years overnight.
It takes time to be a proper football club.
New owners, new manager, new recruitment team, new stadium.
Next season is different though. Expectations across the board for me and heads should roll if we don’t qualify for Europe and are more competitive in the cups as well.
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I’m definitely worried about the possibility of Moyes v the transfer committee, and Soucek good pro type signings and minimal development of the younger players
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But yeah, relegation fodder to mid table plodders is hugely welcome, so I’m massively grateful for that stability, professionalism and nous he has ushered back in