Financial Fairplay Investigation - Deducted 10 points

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I respect that everyone has their own perspective, but I strongly disagree with anyone saying ''let's just take this on the chin, it'll pull the club together and we'll drag our way out of this''. The club was already pulling together, and we've had a completely disproportionate punishment placed upon us.#

I'm exaggerating to make a point, but to me saying ''just accept it, it'll spur us on'' is kinda like finding that your son has been sentenced to death for shoplifting and going ''oh well, it'll pull the family together at least''.

Nah, fuck that shit. Fight like tooth and nail against any injustice and irregularity.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 50424.html

Premier League clubs set for fresh split as Super League tensions resurface ahead of crunch meeting

The so-called ‘other 14’ are set to clash with the ‘big six’ at Tuesday’s crucial shareholders’ meeting

Premier League clubs are prepared to bring up the failed European Super League plot at Tuesday’s crucial shareholders’ meeting as they look to put pressure on the so-called “big six” sides to contribute a greater share to the £130m rescue package for the wider pyramid.

Six Premier League clubs - Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur, Chelsea and Manchester City - formed part of the breakaway European Super League plans in April 2021, which collapsed spectacularly within days after a fan revolt.

The so-called “other 14” feel the current model for the “New Deal for football”, which proposes a new financial distribution model between the Premier League and EFL, will see them paying a proportion of their revenue that is felt much more by those with lower incomes.

There is an increasingly emotive will to renegotiate this at Tuesday’s meeting, as the 20 Premier League members attempt to vote through a package that has been long awaited in the wider game.

That would potentially include a push for a transfer levy. The prospect of the future independent regulator imposing such terms on the competition without any negotiation is one of many factors sharpening the tension, along with a general sense of shock at how punitive the 10-point deduction for profit and sustainability breaches was for Everton.

It has temporarily reshaped discussion around divisions that have not been seen since the European Super League plans first surfaced, effectively splitting the old “big six” and the rest.

That wealthy group had previously worked as a bloc to try and influence economic issues like revenue-sharing, but it was fractured after the failure of the European Super League.

Somewhat ironically given the Everton decision, it is the slow nature of the Manchester City case that realigned the game. The vast majority of the league have pushed for a resolution since the February 2023 announcement of the club’s 115 charges for allegedly breaching financial regulations.

With emotions high at the time, it looked like it could evolve into a split between state-owned clubs and the other 18, as there has been fury about the manner of the Saudi Arabian takeover of Newcastle United in 2021.

Another vote set to take place on Tuesday is whether to fast-track a ban on loans between associated clubs ahead of the January transfer window.

This could prevent Ruben Neves being sent from Al Hilal to injury-hit Newcastle, since both clubs are primarily owned by Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund, amid questions of sporting integrity.

The discussions on the “New Deal” will temporarily split clubs along old lines. In order to leverage their position, executives at the “other 14” are prepared to remind the big six how forgiving the Premier League after the failed European Super League plans.

The thinking at the time was to punish individuals responsible rather than wider clubs, even though there was an opening to do more to economically reshape the competition.

The fact there is also an investigation going on into Chelsea, to go with that involving City, only strengthens the sense of feeling. City deny any wrongdoing.

One argument will be that the current model appears to be unfairly onerous on the less wealthy clubs, in what is the biggest finance-based decision since the European Super League.
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Bluedylan1 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:44 pm I respect that everyone has their own perspective, but I strongly disagree with anyone saying ''let's just take this on the chin, it'll pull the club together and we'll drag our way out of this''. The club was already pulling together, and we've had a completely disproportionate punishment placed upon us.#

I'm exaggerating to make a point, but to me saying ''just accept it, it'll spur us on'' is kinda like finding that your son has been sentenced to death for shoplifting and going ''oh well, it'll pull the family together at least''.

Nah, fuck that shit. Fight like tooth and nail against any injustice and irregularity.
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Not seen/heard a lot of stuff from people having sympathy for us tbh.
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Ian Byrne is a Hillsborough survivor BTW.
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A fella on the panel was/is a lawyer for Leeds United, said Leeds could sue if Everton are found guilty.

We where found guilty......👀

We could propose conflict of interest here.

We need to just drag this all over the place, it might even lead to a reform.
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Cozzie wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:37 pm A fella on the panel was/is a lawyer for Leeds United, said Leeds could sue if Everton are found guilty.

We where found guilty......👀

We could propose conflict of interest here.

We need to just drag this all over the place, it might even lead to a reform.
I find it hard to believe that nobody picked up on that during the whole process tbh.

Not Everton like. I fully believe in the incompetency of this club to let something like that slide but I doubt those involved in this from outside of the club would allow that to happen if it were going to be an issue.
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Shogun wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:22 pm Not seen/heard a lot of stuff from people having sympathy for us tbh.
Had a look on a couple of forums and they seemed to have a fair bit of sympathy for us - Man U & Man City, although I guess you'd expect the latter to be some what on our side.
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https://twitter.com/KimJohnsonMP/status ... 8288966033

More support from other MP's

They've really opened a can of worms here haven't they?
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Shogun wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:22 pm Not seen/heard a lot of stuff from people having sympathy for us tbh.
Seen loads - just not from Leeds fans.
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Another problem for us is that the PL won't want to look (even more) like right idiots by taking off 10 and dropping us into the relegation zone, to the be reinstating some/all and having us rise up the table again.

It's all about the optics to avoid real independent politically-driven regulation.

It's becoming more farcical by the day.
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And if anything is going to test our player's mettle, whether we're still the soft touches we've been in the last 5 or so years, or if Dyche has changed our character and self belief sufficiently, this will be it.
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