biziclop wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:26 pm
What would be the alternative though? A job interview?
I'm sure there was an interview process, driven by the DOFs list of potential candidates based on their body of work.
Just in a weird twist of serendipity the best man for the job happened to be the managers mate, signed to the same agent as the manager who happened himself to be the managers brother!
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:10 pm
I'm sure there was an interview process, driven by the DOFs list of potential candidates based on their body of work.
Just in a weird twist of serendipity the best man for the job happened to be the managers mate, signed to the same agent as the manager who happened himself to be the managers brother!
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:10 pm
I'm sure there was an interview process, driven by the DOFs list of potential candidates based on their body of work.
Just in a weird twist of serendipity the best man for the job happened to be the managers mate, signed to the same agent as the manager who happened himself to be the managers brother!
How would the DOF have a list of potential set piece coaches able to start the next day when Dyche didn’t want a set piece coach ? It was in Moyes view an immediate priority to get someone in to focus on that part of training and Adam was immediately available, where’s the problem with that ?
brap2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:23 pm
Right okay, what are we doing here for goodness sake.
Yes this is a much more pertinent point, no more interviews, hire whoever you want as long as they are not interviewed first.
Or here's a novel idea: once you've established they're not complete blaggers, hire them on probation for a couple of months.
This isn't rocket science, if you think job interviews in a highly specialised position are useful for anything other than filtering out the majority (but by far not all) of the blaggers, I don't know what to say.
biziclop wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:49 pm
Or here's a novel idea: once you've established they're not complete blaggers, hire them on probation for a couple of months.
This isn't rocket science, if you think job interviews in a highly specialised position are useful for anything other than filtering out the majority (but by far not all) of the blaggers, I don't know what to say.
At a certain level, you already know if someone is a le to do the job you need them for.
A coffee to make sure they're not a bell end that will ruin a dynamic is all that's needed.
That being said, I agree with brap that this is entirely the wrong optics for the new (old) regime
biziclop wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:49 pm
Or here's a novel idea: once you've established they're not complete blaggers, hire them on probation for a couple of months.
This isn't rocket science, if you think job interviews in a highly specialised position are useful for anything other than filtering out the majority (but by far not all) of the blaggers, I don't know what to say.
Why are you baiting me into an argument about job interviews, do you think I feel very strongly about job interviews and that's what my point is?
I fucking hated charlie Adam, but this thread is getting ridiculous
He’s not Moyes mate, and he won’t have hired him on that basis. I’m sure he knows him, most people in football know one another
Those that think he did and have an issue with it, I bet you’d all be lapping it up if we’d hired some fella called rico suave from some Brazilian side and he’d brought in some young unknown coach from Portugal he knows
You’re just moaning, passing it off as same old Everton eve though you’d take it all day long if it was someone sexy and not Moyes and a kopite very fat charlie Adan
Don’t even think there’s been any negativity to it. Just questions about the process.
I think people underestimate just how behind the curve we are when it comes to this type of stuff.
We’re in the position we are for a number of reasons and one of them is old school thinking.
But he’s only here for a few months and moyes at least recognises the importance of getting a set piece coach in and delegating the work as a manager.
Can’t believe dyche got rid of the set piece analyst in the summer as well as Alan Kelly.
Shows the issue when you give managed autonomy on bringing in staff.
Other teams bring people in from the outside to bring in fresh ideas. Moyes brings in people he’s knows and trusts, which is fine but the game is moving on beyond that.
TheRam wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:10 am
Don’t even think there’s been any negativity to it. Just questions about the process.
I think people underestimate just how behind the curve we are when it comes to this type of stuff.
We’re in the position we are for a number of reasons and one of them is old school thinking.
But he’s only here for a few months and moyes at least recognises the importance of getting a set piece coach in and delegating the work as a manager.
Can’t believe dyche got rid of the set piece analyst in the summer as well as Alan Kelly.
Shows the issue when you give managed autonomy on bringing in staff.
Other teams bring people in from the outside to bring in fresh ideas. Moyes brings in people he’s knows and trusts, which is fine but the game is moving on beyond that.
Good post, well balanced, I think that were it not for that fact that we were in a relegation dog fight with no back room staff we may well have been able to cast the net a bit wider but it is what it is so he’s done what he’s done.
Just a quote from Pep Guardiola as a final word, I can see his point.
“ Manel Estiarte, a former water polo player who won gold at the 1996 Olympics, has a unique role at City but he is a crucial member of Guardiola’s team. providing helpful advice, feedback and support to the manager.
The pair are long-time friends and Guardiola once said on the importance of Estiarte’s presence: : “Managers are very, very alone. It is good for me to have him here.”“
