David Moyes

[Audrey Horne]

Think about how much you'd stink though

I'm ok being stinky haha

[Paddockoldie]

I also remember Moyes saying at the start of every season my goal is to win the league.

[Escalator]

Can you tell us one positive thing to think about right now with the club?

I’m just an optimist, I’m convinced we will spend our increased transfer budget wisely and that some of our younger players will kick on to become better players, I’m of the opinion that first season in a new stadium is always tough, I don’t think that so many shitty decisions will go against us, I just prefer to remain positive untill events prove me wrong.

[Raptor]

I just prefer to remain positive untill events prove me wrong.

How long have you supported Everton, a week! Or do you have dementia?

For the last 30 of years they've proved us wrong, so fair play to you if you can remain optimistic with this shower of shit

[AjaxAndy]

Hard to know what he meant really with that comment, I watched the video and he also says he wants Everton to be challenging near the top.

I'd imagine what he actually meant was to be a stable team that is regularly challenging for Europe without ever having any relegation worries, which in truth is where we realistically should be aiming as a club.

It's just horribly worded and sounds tone deaf. At no point should Everton ever be aspiring to match Brentford and Bournemouth, two much smaller clubs with no history or winning things. Even if the reality is they've both been run much better than us over the past few years and regularly finished above us.

Just say we want to be challenging for Europe every year, that's all we need to hear.

[Escalator]

How long have you supported Everton, a week! Or do you have dementia?

For the last 30 of years they've proved us wrong, so fair play to you if you can remain optimistic with this shower of shit

Over 40 years actually if I thought they were a shower of shit I wouldn’t support them, for 30 years we have played within our financial means and were mis managed during the period that we were financially strong, I just can’t go into a new season having already decided that we will be shit.

[Cods]

How long have you supported Everton, a week! Or do you have dementia?

For the last 30 of years they've proved us wrong, so fair play to you if you can remain optimistic with this shower of shit

By the same token look at the remaining 91 clubs in the football league. We're top 10 and some of those above are plastic, or full of glory hunters.

We could all be shallow, soft, and apparently stinky individuals. What doesn't kill us...

[Audrey Horne]

How long have you supported Everton, a week! Or do you have dementia?

For the last 30 of years they've proved us wrong, so fair play to you if you can remain optimistic with this shower of shit

[wepull]

If we have money to spend, sack him and move on to any decent manager. Even if we fail then we will fall between 10th to 15th position, as was the case from post- Martinez to pre-Benitez set of managers.

If not then let's stick around with him, I don't think there are many who could perform with budget constraints or with our ability to hire someone who is better than Moyes.

[AjaxAndy]

Over 40 years actually if I thought they were a shower of shit I wouldn’t support them, for 30 years we have played within our financial means and were mis managed during the period that we were financially strong, I just can’t go into a new season having already decided that we will be shit.

Yeah I can't be arsed already writing off next season either, think people are massively over reacting to a poor end to the season.

I'd change manager given the opportunity, Glasner is still available and would do well here imo, but we aren't going to do that, so I'll give Moyes the opportunity to show us he can take us forward.

Sign a few players that fix the glaring issues in the team and there's no reason we can't be pushing for Europe next season.

Seems a complete waste of energy to be writing the season off in June.

[Cods]

He's probably been handed his transfer budget, so it's in part a message to the fans and in part a message to the owners.

Management of unrealistic fan expectation is part of the job. His depends on it more than most.

Some managers get gains through large chequebooks.

Some managers build small clubs from the bottom up, getting gains from football science and having no expectation from fans.

Some get gains through team bonds and extracting more juice from the lemon.

Moyes' competitive advantage is more of the latter, and could do with much more of the first.

We're not all of a sudden a top (ie. Rich) club in England again. We shouldn't expect to be. What they say publicly and privately are often two distinctly different things.

[Audrey Horne]

Id say the reaction is because we have seen this before.

It's not like he is a manager new to us, we know this is the way it goes with him.

We had ten years of never ever winning at the top 5 clubs grounds, that's unforgivable. It's pathetic. Moyes is part of the reason that so many of the media, other clubs and parts of our own fan base think that it's fine to say we should be aspiring to be Bournemouth or Brentford...

To me that's absolutely insane and I do not want a manager who says stuff like that in the same breathe as he can't understand why fans would be disappointed at the season.

I just CBA with it.

We know how next season will go, we know who will be starting games, we know we won't win at the big clubs grounds, we know all this so unsure what the point is really.

[Indiantoffee75]

As previously mentioned, large parts of our fanbase continually pedal excuses after excuses after excuses for abject failure. Every season

30 years on and the excuses still roll.

Parallels to the way this country (UK) is governed. Laughing stock.

[AjaxAndy]

As previously mentioned, large parts of our fanbase continually pedal excuses after excuses after excuses for abject failure. Every season

30 years on and the excuses still roll.

Parallels to the way this country (UK) is governed. Laughing stock.

What would you class as success out of interest?

[AjaxAndy]

unsure what the point is really.

Tbh I think this is why things don't bother me as much as others. I accepted there wasn't much point a long time ago.

Even the best run clubs outside the sky 6 bumble around between 5th and 13th.

Everyone holds Brighton up as an example of how to run a club but they've finished roughly where we were the previous 2 seasons, and although they made Europe this season there was a long stretch where they couldn't buy a win, much like us only theirs was in the middle of the season not the end.

Even Newcastle who managed to break in to the champions league spots couldn't handle the extra games, dropped out of Europe altogether the following seasons, their best players left or are leaving, and they get gazumped at every turn when they try and buy a player who would help them push back for top 5.

It's all completely pointless.